I think they're a very elite band. Their use of percussion is unparalleled and the melodies they come up with are more than catchy; they're powerful (Rhun)and they're the band best able to create an atmosphere with their music. I don't care if they're classified as 'middle earth' metal or 'Tolkien' metal. They're awesome. But of course one man's trash is another man's treasure...so to each his own. Respect.