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Black Sabbath - I don't get it

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Life Sucks, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. Carcassian

    Carcassian Utopian Blaster

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    I think the Ugly Kid Joe version is better. Go figure, huh ?:kickass:

    (Mind you, I prefer the Anal Cunt version of Killing yourself to Live to the original version).
     
  2. Matt

    Matt Active Member

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    That's absurd

    I've never heard anyone say anything like that before.
     
  3. zoidberg

    zoidberg Mallcore Kid

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    i have. its dumb, because you know bands like slayer and venom got thier material from songs like war pigs.
     
  4. thisisaformicatable

    thisisaformicatable New Metal Member

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    I was considering responding to your second point, but your first point indicates that you are probably retarded so I won't trouble you.

    Which was one of those solid moments that didn't have the impact and importance of their classic era, which was what I was speaking of.

    ??? You wouldn't put Sabbath on a list of the most important artists in modern popular music history? I think they should make anyone's top 50, if not 10 or 5.

    Who is saying they're the best because they were first? The reasons for calling them the best include things like being the most important, influential, innovative, etc. The fist metal band could have been some obscure mediocre group and metal wouldn't have caught on until some other band refined and popularized it - but that's not what happened, Black Sabbath was more than just chronologically fortunate.
     
  5. Life Sucks

    Life Sucks and then you die

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    Sabbath is to metal what the Beatles are to rock. But unlike the Beatles, Sabbath doesn't suck.
     
  6. Hatebreeder

    Hatebreeder Pizzicato Heartstrings

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    The Beatles don't suck, they were just surrounded in a fury of hype and pretension that blew them up to a level they never should've reached.

    I think that's what happened to Ozzy.
     
  7. Ender Rises

    Ender Rises Wass sappening?

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  8. AchrisK

    AchrisK Weakling

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    I don't think The Beatles suck, and I think saying that is ignorance. But I do think that being this far removed from what they did makes it near impossible to truly appreciate it. I was born in 1967 and even I have never really appreciated them for what they did, but I am not ignorant enough to say they suck.
     
  9. AchrisK

    AchrisK Weakling

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    Wow, that's just...young. When Ozzy went solo and put out those first two albums, they ruled! You could appreciate them more if you were there and heard them in context. I still love them. I can't say much about the post Randy Rhoads years, though. I haven't heard much of it, but what I have heard was only ok at best (aside from some tunes from Bark at the Moon).
     
  10. Ender Rises

    Ender Rises Wass sappening?

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    You don't like No More Tears? That is my favorite Ozzy song, most likely.
     
  11. AchrisK

    AchrisK Weakling

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    Nah. I lost interest after Rhoads died. Truthfully I got really into Iron Maiden about that time, and then thrash was starting to come on to the scene, so I really never looked back. I think Revelation (Mother Earth) is one of my favorites, and Diary of a Madman.
     
  12. Life Sucks

    Life Sucks and then you die

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    Another thing with Sabbath is that there are certain songs that I like a lot more than the others (Children of the Grave, Into the Void, War Pigs, Electric Funeral, Iron Man, Symptom of the Universe, Black Sabbath, and a few others).
     
  13. J.

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    doesnt that hold true to any band?
     
  14. Life Sucks

    Life Sucks and then you die

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    For some. But for most of my favorite bands, it's not really like there is a group of soungs that I life FAR more than all the others.
     
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    ohiogrinder New Metal Member

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    I dislike the Beatles, but I what I dislike even more is Beatles fanboys.
     
  16. AgoliantLives

    AgoliantLives Aint that a daisy?

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    Not really
     
  17. skeptik

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    Actually it's laughably inaccurate, and frankly you would have to be either a complete idiot, flat out lying, or simply grossly ignorant of reality if you think the only people who truly hail Black Sabbath are those who are only familiar with the "tip of the Metal iceberg." I can link you to an entire forum that disproves your theory.
     
  18. AgoliantLives

    AgoliantLives Aint that a daisy?

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    I never once used the term only in my argument. I said many.
     
  19. anonymousnick2001

    anonymousnick2001 World's Greatest Vocalist

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    No. Sabbath aren't the best metal band EVER. [/OPINION]

    However, it can't be denied that some of their riffs rule harder than a lot of other bands'...riffs. Yeah.
     
  20. Unfaithfully Metalhead

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    That's the problem AchrisK. Most forum members didn't grow up when these bands came out so they cannot appreciate them as much and how different their music was when it first came out. They can and do only compare the past with the present.

    But anyways I think the Ozzy/Randy versions of Sabbath songs are better then the originals only because Randy's playing was not as boring as Tony's. He really put new life into those old songs.

    As for post Randy years. I thought Jake E. Lee did a fine job in the two Ozzy albums he did. He was the best guitarist to fill Randy's shoes. As for Zakk well he sucks :lol:
     

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