This site is supported by the advertisements on it, please disable your AdBlocker so we can continue to provide you with the quality content you expect.

Welcome to Our Community

Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today.

Bought an Engl SE, how do I set it Chris?

Discussion in 'Chris Broderick' started by Lurch, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. Lurch

    Lurch New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2002
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Tampa
    I got a killer deal on an SE 760 6L6. Awesome amp, but I'm having trouble finding a thick, ultra-heavy tone because of all of the options (it's a little overwhelming).

    Chris, I watched the YouTube video of you practicing for Nevermore using the SE (EL34 version with Blue lights I think?) and I figured out all of the push buttons that were in/out, but I can't see the knobs (Gain, Bass, Middle, Treble, and Presence). I tried the settings from your Powerball thread, but they don't transfer over well to the SE.

    Any help dude?:worship:

    Maybe you like the Powerball better anyway?
     
  2. Nebulous

    Nebulous Daniel

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2003
    Messages:
    7,291
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Brookfield, VIC, Australia
    Buying an amp that sounds good to you, with your playing is usually the best way to go. If it doesn't suit your playing, it's not worth the buy, regardless of price.

    Having said that, now that it is yours, spend some time with it. Don't expect "the" tone over night. Try one setting and play through it for some time. See what YOU need more of, or less of. For all you know, Chris could have a really thick palmute technique and needs the bass down low, where your technique might need more bass. You might like a more sizzling, cut through tone compared to Chris.

    It's all very subjetive and asking for other people's settings won't get you any closer to their tone.

    Good luck with the new amp.
     
  3. Lurch

    Lurch New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2002
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Tampa
    ^ All very true, thanks.

    Just looking for a good starting point since this thing seems hard to dial in- like a Mesa. Took me years to finally get a great rhythm sound with the Dual Rectifier because I was missing an input booster to tighten it up, but the Mesa clean and lead sounds still suck.

    Unfortunately so far, I like the Mesa better. Guess I need professional help.:loco:
     
  4. kmanick

    kmanick Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2006
    Messages:
    271
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Boston
    did you get the manual with this thing?
    I played thru one at the Boston Guitar show a couple of weeks ago
    and shit there are a ton of
    settings that subtly change your tone.
    I loved it and if I had the cash I would've bought it home with me.
    Take some time pick one channel at a time and try dialing it in.
    These don't look like easy amps to "tweak", so be patient, I got a great
    very "modern" tone out of the one I was playing thru (with a suhr strat)
    but it took me a while. I had a friend play while I tweaked, it helped a lot.
    BTW congrats , I'm very jealous :kickass:
     
  5. Kohlrabihaus

    Kohlrabihaus Minister of Silly Walks

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    154
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    are u sure he isn´t using the ENGL invader there? looks like this baby IMO
     
  6. slashvanyoung

    slashvanyoung Dopefish lives!

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    4,458
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Germany
    That's why I love the simplicity of my Fireball. Took me about 20 minutes to set it up and tear down walls.
     
  7. Chris_Broderick

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2004
    Messages:
    616
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I love the SE because it's so versitile, and it has become my amp of choice, now don't get me wrong I still use the Powerball and love it (both shows in Japan), but the SE is like 10 amps in one. As far as tone I would tell you to just experiment because it's so individual and dependent on your other gear that your ear will tell you much better then I could.

    good luck, Chris.
     
  8. Fragle

    Fragle Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,052
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Germany
    on a related sidenote, chris, any word on what engl amp jeff's going to be using?

    well, back on topic: lurch, good luck with finding your tone ;-) i'm convinced there's some crushing metal sounds lurking in there.
     
  9. Chris_Broderick

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2004
    Messages:
    616
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    He used the Invader 100 while on tour, but I think he is going to get an SE.

    Take care, Chris.
     
  10. Lurch

    Lurch New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2002
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Tampa
    I found a KILLER sound on the SE:headbang:

    I decided to change to tubes to Mullard reissue EL34's instead of the 6L6's, and I found out the tube selector switch was set to EL34 from the factory with 6L6 tubes in it!??? No wonder it didn't sound good.
     
  11. kmanick

    kmanick Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2006
    Messages:
    271
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Boston
    I'm surprised your head didn't fry, the biasing is so different between those two
    tube types.
    BTW the SE I tried was an EL34 model.
    I wish I could afford one just an amazing amp.
    I guess I'll have to make do with my JSX. :cry:
     
  12. technomancer

    technomancer New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2007
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Late response to an old thread, but I thought it should be pointed out for information purposes.

    The ENGL SE is set up to run extremely hot 6L6 tubes. If you don't have extremely hot tubes it is perfectly fine to bias 6L6 tubes on the EL34 setting as long as it's biased correctly. I learned this directly from ENGL support.
     

Share This Page