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Burzum (Varg Vikernes): Moron or a hero?

Discussion in 'Chat' started by Salamurhaaja, Apr 29, 2002.

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I vote for moron :grin:

  1. Moron

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  2. Hero

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  3. Who the hell is Burzum (Varg Vikernes)?

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  1. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    I vote for moron :D
     
  2. Downfall

    Downfall Damage Driven Creep

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    I second moron...
     
  3. Russell

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    Complete and utter twat, who has the intelligence of a two year old child and about the same social development... In "lord of chaos" he copntradicts himself so many times in the same sentence its unbelievable!
     
  4. Thanatos

    Thanatos payaso

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    fucking moron, 2 year olds are way more intelligent than him
     
  5. Russell

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    Sorry, quite true ;)
     
  6. yourdeadgroom

    yourdeadgroom Black Stone Wielder

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    I dunno about calling him a moron, that's kinda insulting to other morons.....
     
  7. mousewings

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    True... but what else is there to call him?

    I voted moron.
     
  8. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    Lord Of Chaos wasn't writen by him tho, was writen by Michael Moynihan and Didrik Søderlind, but you are right about him contradicting himself tho, the stuff he says doesn't make any sense, even tho I agree with him on a few points, but I think most people here would anyway :rolleyes:

    hmm, maybe moron was a wrong word, but then again, I am quite sure whatever word I would use it would insult the involved parties, so... :lol:
     
  9. enitharmon

    enitharmon chemical mysteries

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    Isn't there anything between "hero" and "moron"?

    He is different, has his own ideas and I respect that.
     
  10. Russell

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    :rolleyes: I was tlaking about in his interviews ;)
     
  11. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    Yah I know :p
     
  12. ~UlvedaL~

    ~UlvedaL~ Where Lost Souls Travel

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    Do not doubt on Vargs intelligence... I bet none of you moron-voters has red any of his books.. If one disagrees with his opinions is another cause, but dont judge people like that! it makes you the real moron!!!

    No Offence...

    NP: Burzum - "Spell Of Destruction"
     
  13. Voice of God

    Voice of God Harmless Bum

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    Moron. No I haven't read any of his books, but if they are at the same level as his writings in burzum.com.... utter idiocy.
     
  14. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    I see that stuff pretty much the same way as I see rappers acting like they grew up on the streets and belong to gangs and shit.
    It's seems he is trying to make himself seem more and more controversial with the things he says, unfortunately the only thing he manages to do is contradict himself.

    He says so many totally moronic things on that site it's unbelievable.

    @Ulvedal
    You have read the book I figure, point out some gems to us 'ordinary people'?
     
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    I can't say I've read full books as I won't spend money on that crap, but I've read extracts and his interviews, and he really is very stupid... The justifications for some of his actions are things that I grew out of (literally) at the age of seven...

    I don't say he's un-intelligent because of his views, but because in all the material I have ever read concerning him (independent of the source) he come across as an immature uneducated idiot who can not justify the majority of his actions...
     
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    Yes, many genii are aproaching insane... He, however, isn't; he's just stupid ;) Not because of his views at all.. (which I bvelieve are ludicrous short sighted and idiotic (all the one's I've read of)) but because of the things he says, the manner in which he says them and the things his actions.. also he can't justify his standpoint or stick up for his beliefs coherently and they're constantly changing, and he tries to justify this by saying "that wasn't what I meant, I actually meant this [insert this weeks religous standpoint]"

    Sorry, he gets on my tits ;)
     
  17. Dakuroth

    Dakuroth Absurdity made flesh

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    Yeah his website is pure fucking comedy...and the guy who runs it is so far up Varg's arse its unbelievable.

    Sure he's entitled to his views but did anyone read about his future "aryan utopia" or some such? George Lucas wouldn't fucking film it...
     
  18. ~UlvedaL~

    ~UlvedaL~ Where Lost Souls Travel

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    The things you´ve written above doesn´t make sense...
    First of all; Varg is a fucking genious -espicially when it comes to language.. He speaks very intelligent, both in structure and his choice of words...

    Secondly; All the way, Varg has never changed his mind other from satanist to patriotic paganist... and dont blame him for the ones who do not understand him.. And please rememer he is not "racist" (as anti-facists call it) of hate to other races, but for love to his own..! It is a fact that black and white are two different races, just like birds... Same abilities but culturally differed... Please do not say otherwise... That makes you the hater!!!

    He is very wise when it comes to religion and antireligion too...

    All the way he has also stood in for his actions and have never refused or shown any kind of weakness due to his conviction...

    If You understand Norwegian here it is: http://www.heathenfront.org/vargsmal/bas.htm

    Salamurhaaja- Here´s a gem:
    "Rasisme er ikke fremmedfrykt, eller hat, eller et mindreverdighetskompleks. Det er et tegn på åndelig sunnhet og kjærlighet til seg selv og sin egen rase!"

    =

    "Racism is not fear of strangers, hate, or inferiority complexes. It is a sign of spiritual health and love to oneself and ones race.."
     
  19. Dakuroth

    Dakuroth Absurdity made flesh

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    I admit it was a few months since i was near his website. And I admit I forgot about his impressive language skills. So I grant you that. Though I didnt think his command of language was THAT impressive. I guess English isnt his mother tongue, but i consider Don DeLilo a linguistic genious, not Varg.

    But, UlvedaL, I never mentioned racism. Why bring it up? I said his visions of fucking elves and trolls were, to my mind, nonsensical horseshit. I said nothing about "race". Although now you mention it , his use of the term "my pals-music" in an interview to describe music deriving from rock/blues is fucking rascist! And the last sentence of your paragraph on that is also nonsensical.

    Got this from the Burzum site:
    " Any group of people that indulges in small-mindedness, petty hatred or self-important political strife for the purposes of _passive manipulation_ must henceforth be declared Jewish and sent directly to the ovens"

    Make up your own mind people.

    Phyre, you are damn right "race" and culture have nothing to do with each other. Anyway, individual "cultures" are almost impossible to discern in the western world these days. Race is a concept certain people have come up with to divide and conquer. If you still think its something spiritual, UlvedaL, then away you go. But dont look suprised if you're ploughing a lone furrow.

    Dont mistake blind stubbornness for honest conviction. Varg is an unrepentant moan, complaining that no one from the Norwegian scene supports him when he goes around insulting their work, and mouthing off about how far ahead of everyone he is with his fucking keyboard based rubbish. He's like a little kid throwing a tantrum to get attention; hes just pathetic.

    And to all the Burzum fans upset by my "blasphemy": fuck off back to your fantasies
     
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    English isn't his first language, so I forgave him that, but his English really does suck... His structure is very poor in the interviews I have, his vocabulary too small to express himself adequately. I would expect the average 14 year old to be able to write similar if not better stuff..

    The on that got me was the change from satanist to pagan... afterwards he claimed he never used satanic imagery etc. when he blatantly did..

    So if love of your own race makes you prejudiced against others, why are you not a racist? Prey explain... I would not condone racism for whatever reason he had whether it love of his own or hate of others. Its still racism and I still believe its wrong


    No, he is short sighted and has not researched any of the major religions enough to rule them out.. He may know a lot about paganism (well seems to..) but that’s not much good if you have disregarded all other religions without learning anything about them!


    That’s very true...

    Complete bullshit... the kind of attitude that leads to Nazi ideals
     

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