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Can't go wrong with Nolan/Zimmer combination.

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  1. Keregioz

    Keregioz Kimon Zeliotis

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    So, last week Christopher Nolan's latest movie "Interstellar" premiered. It's getting kinda mixed reviews but personally I think it was awesome, although I think I liked "Inception" and "The Dark Knight" a little more. Either way, one of the best things about the movie it's the soundtrack by Hans Zimmer, I can't wait for it to be released. In the meantime there's this bonus track that has been released:



    You probably won't get the full impact of this track if you haven't seen the movie. Anyone who saw the movie and didn't get goosebumps during the "docking" scene where this track was playing is probably dead inside. I've been listening to it non-stop since yesterday trying to relive scenes from the movie, I can't wait to go see it again.

    There's also this from one of the early teasers of the movie:

     
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    Really want to see this!
     
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    Can't simmer the zimmer.
     
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    Can't wait to see it. I agree about Zimmer and Nolan being a great team. Not quite Williams/Spielberg but great nonetheless.
     
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    Clint Mansell and Darren Aronofsky is another great team.
     
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    LeSedna Mat or Mateo

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    I am hugely disappointed by this movie. Like, hugely ! From the ridiculous robots (I can't imagine people finding those robots cool or interesting), the annoying scientific approximations or impossibilities (that water planet, won't spoil it but it's a physics aberration), the cliché characters, the cliché scenes, the long intro, the easy ending which was so obvious to me and my friends that when we joked about it, then realized we were right, we couldn't believe our eyes. If people give it a 93% like on imdb forever, I am loosing faith in humanity when it comes to sci fi !
     
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    Mago Austrian Blech Machine

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    saw it last weekend, yeah that scene with that music is intense.

    I kinda didn't really get if I thought the movie was awesome or not. I was neither going "fuck yes!" or "hell no" at the end.

    Didn't knew a lot about the flick beforehand, only saw one trailer. Guess I just expected too much.
    A lot of really cool scenes, but overall it felt a little dragged and too long.
    The ending...I dunno...I also thought it was kinda convenient but there has been way way worse, its not bad per se imo.
    Cool characters with relatable motives, not something you see in every movie haha

    Not something I wanted to watch again immediately afterwards (I never really do that tho), but after a few days of reflection I would be up for it, IF it wasn't so damn long :lol:

    It's cool and something different, but I wouldn't really classify it as a masterpiece. Unique for sure though.
     
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    I absolutely loved this movie, haha. Different strokes I guess :) There were obviously holes here and there but I don't really care. The sound design and cinematography were top, top notch. Real pleasure to see and hear.
     
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    Mago Austrian Blech Machine

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    haha don't get me started on the plot holes...nolan loves those ^^

    that.fucking.truck.tire AGHH

    Sound really was epic. I watched it in one of the bigger cinemas with extra speakers and subs and all, got my balls some nice rumbling :D
     
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    On a sidenote, yes the music was quite nice here. The main theme was a bit boring to me (it consisted of a few notes in repetition) but overall it was very nice yes ! The bar has been set so high with Tron, I now compare sci fi movies to the daft punk soundtrack a bit too much ! But I like that ambient work he did indeed.

    I'm sure the movie is a very good entertainment, and I still didn't get too bored in the 3h it lasts, but damn yes, so many plot holes it's not even funny anymore, so many things don't make sense, so many just are too convenient, and damn, let's talk about these robots. They ruined almost all credibility for me and my friends, I thought it was a big joke coming from a Z series movie, and they have little purpose in the movie in the end. I was literally laughing whenever I would see one of them in the background trying to look like he's doing something useful, while it's obvious looking at them they aren't even viable in the first place. I'm serious when I say these co-bots ruined half the movie for me !

    By the way, the biggest plot hole is so big i'm even surprised it's part of the main storyline : "hey we're the secret NASA, we are building a secret shuttle, and you just knocked the door. You happen to be an ex NASA pilot, how convenient, we need you now, because no we didn't have any pilot before we met you. Here are the keys, I'm sure you're still the best pilot after working 20 years in the corn fields. Off you go"
     
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    Mago Austrian Blech Machine

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    haha yeah, my buddy said that as well about the "here you got the keys" thing. I thought "welp, I guess they really need a pilot", so I can forgive that.

    The robots...I dunno, they didn't bother me too much, they where kinda funny at times, although ridiculous at others.
    What "bothered" me the most about the robots was, that on that planet where time is oh so important (that stuff is a chapter on its own, but anyway...) they let her go around chasing after parts of the ship, wasting precious, precious time, when that robot could served as a vehicle to begin with. Suddenly they use him in a way that makes sense.
    Kinda like that sword thing in Pacific Rim. Like, oh now that the scene needs to intensify you come up with that...would have been handy if those scientist would have thought of that early, but hey....
     
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    The first one arrived in 3mn into the movie "oh look, a drone that has been flying for about 100 years" which is shown as being a Predator (american drone) that they crack on-the-fly from their computer, all that by using a GPS (which implies the GPS/Glonass satellite network has been maintained) etc etc. It was accumulating so fast, which is in a science-fiction movie playing the scientifically-realistic card, was an immediate fail.

    I don't know about the robots. I totally get what nolan tried to do, it was an hommage to the Monolith, and the idea of a pure form of synthetic intelligence (the second logical pure shape after the sphere is a square, for a human brain) but during the whole movie, you would see the robots trying to awkwardly walk, and Nolan would try very hard implying to the viewer the robot are working on this piece, or going through this door, while in fact it is obvious they can't possibly do that. It is super frustrating, and funny to watch. Also the added value was close to forgettable, while there is so much to say about robots. I mean, Isaac Asimov, HAL, Data from star trek (best robot in sci-fi ever btw), AI.. Basically, the added value was "Funny robot" + "autopilot for the space shuttles" + "probe"
     
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    A last one before I go to bed
    "which planet should we choose ?"
    "well, that one near the black hole has good data, it has water"
    "isn't it near a black hole ? I mean, close enough so 1h=7year on earth ?" (which by the way would be so damn close to the black hole i'm not sure it would technically be a planet anymore or it would be possible to stand on it, but let's assume we forget about that)
    "well yeah"
    "ok cool, why not, seems like a good candidate for the survival of the Human Race"
     
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    Keregioz Kimon Zeliotis

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    LaSedna, you must be really fun to go to the movies with...:loco:
     
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    I'll admit that the whole "physics of a black hole" part was pretty damn ridiculous. Poetic license I guess, as long as it's a work of fiction I usually don't mind it.

    However, very few things in any movie have pissed me off as much as in Taken 2 where Liam Neeson concludes that "the sound from the blast took 3 seconds to reach me so you are 3 miles away". Aaargh
     
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    Keregioz Kimon Zeliotis

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    [spoilers ahead]
    Ι'm not gonna argue about the accuracy of the physics because I'm not an expert, and frankly I don't give a fuck, it's not a documentary (although they did have a scientist to consult them so I'm sure not all of it is bullshit), but why should the fact that "1h=7year" keep them from collecting data from that planet? It's not like they have the luxury to choose any planet they want, they're trying to save the human race. Seems like you're nitpicking and over-analysing stuff, just enjoy it for what it is. I for one enjoyed the experience immensely and it was a nice change of pace from the constant super-hero movies, reboots and remakes and general crap hollywood comes up these last years. I wish more directors had the ambition and vision Nolan has to do something new and different and in such a big scale.
     
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    I've been waiting for this movie so long and i was kinda disappointed as with last years Gravity. Docking scene and music was tits and goosebumps, yes. But a shit ton of unnecessary scenes (flat tire and drone anyone?), plot holes, obvious plot turns, naive dialogues, kindergarten physics and cheesy ending spoiled it for me.
     
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    (spoiler alert)

    I didn't hate the experience, I still spent 3h not looking at my watch, but it is very frustrating when they pretend they are trying to make it sort of accurate. I love a lot of movies who play a different card, and that's fine, but when they go into details about some things, and then pretend a drone has been flying for 100 years and I don't consider that nitpicking, and do something like that pretty much every 5mn, it does degrade the experience. For example, the last part of the movie, at least, was so far fetched that it only becomes poetic, and it becomes way less frustrating. 2001, Gattaca, Star trek, all these movies manage to find a good balance of invention while keeping enough scientific credibility for the realistic parts; to me when a movie doesn't do that, it feels like they consider the viewer is stupid and they can throw at them illogical things that are not even difficult to notice for anyone a little bit physicist. I recently watched Elysium for example, and it was pretty cool, so you can do sci fi without giving your viewer wrong information to either eat, or get angry at.

    About the 3 planets, they have kind of a luxury because they have 3 positive planets in the same system, and the first one they choose is the one that is described as being on a close orbit with a massive black hole, with a time dilation so big it means they will pretty much not hear about earth anymore and be alone. It just does not make much sense especially when you see how they take the decision. Also, at that time, they still had the Plan A in mind, not only the plan B, so choosing this planet is equal to dismissing plan A altogether. 24h on the planet and earth would have already gone through several generations already. Not to mention such a time dilation means you are so close to a black hole you're pretty much crashed under billion of G of gravity but that's a liberty Nolan took and that's one of the least extremes so I didn't care about this one.

    The problem with it, is, it could have been a real sci fi movie about explorers trying to find an escape door for the human race. It could have had the pace and maturity of an Alien, but it's an action movie in space, with irregular scenes, and the mandatory american hollywood movie ending with "love transcends space and time, so just follow your love instinct to save the world" monologue that lasts 3mn and felt awkward. Or maybe it was a bit before the end, I don't remember, I just remember this part being awkward at that moment in the movie. Another thing that makes it fall into the action movie in space thing is they escape from the planet with 130% of the earth gravity without a problem like they have a Star trek pod or something, while escaping earth with 100% of gravity in the first place needs a whole Titan V booster with 100 tons of fuel to burn or something like that. Sure it's a liberty Nolan took because he wanted a scene with a rocket launch but it is low par to play the "okey now let's ditch this, the shuttles are now futuristic style and can land and leave any planet". There is something like that every 5mn into the movie.

    That is why for me this is a good entertainment, but not a good movie that will transcend generations. I sort of liked Inception and loved the Black Knight, but this movie didn't convince me how it could have. Sure I prefer it over any other hollywood movie, any day, we have had recently, but it's still a frustrating movie because it had a bigger potential. Now you can think I'm only over-analyzing, but so many other sci fi movies just make me fall into their magic because there is little or almost no WTF moment to distract you from the plot. To me, it's like playing a game with a major bug or graphic glitch every 5mn.
     
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    Gravity had a few scientific irregularities, but since the movie is more about a struggle, and the whole immersion in being lost in space, it felt way less annoying. It was only summed up in a few things like "stations can't be visible from each other as they are not in the same orbit" but it is way easier to justify as a director because otherwise there is absolutely no plot anymore. That's why even though there were a few nitpicks to do, it felt natural and the experience was truly enjoyable in my own opinion. The ending of Gravity was even beautiful and metaphorical, that was closer to cinema as an Art more than just entertainment, IMO.
     
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    They didn't choose it though, they just wanted to collect data from it, if I'm not mistaken.

    Anyway, I get your point of view, you had different expectations from the movie and you were disappointed. Still, you seem to be focusing too much on the movie's flaws. And as far as I know the creators of the movie never claimed that it's 100% scientifically accurate. I've read opinions from scientists about the movie and generally they agree that the movie gets more things right than it does wrong, and most of them enjoyed the movie for what it is. Anyway, I guess it's a personal taste thing.

    I do agree about the ending though, it could be better. And I also agree about Gravity, definitely my favorite movie last year, I went to see it two times in 3D.
     

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