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Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Zhou Tai 04, Apr 27, 2005.

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  1. no country for old wainds

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    My view is that black metal was written with opposition to Christianity at its centre, right from the beginning, and evolved with that as its defining factor.
     
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    That's true.
     
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    Yes, you're right, but nothing can prevent someone from using black metal in a different direction. It will remain black metal because of the music.
     
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    Fourka Forget it

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    It doesn't make sense to create music like that. The way it works is, that music is the outcome of the feelings, and certainly they way it doesn't work is to try to fit feelings in a certain kind of music. The outcome then would be possibly bad.
     
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    It's subjective you dolts!

    Black metal only sounds evil (ooo scary) because you are conditioned that way.

    Rap music incites more crime than black metal, so that's far more evil. It also depends what you consider evil, it being relative. Societal rejects wearing make-up screeching about satan, or millionaire sociopaths, massively influential, encouraging children to take drugs and cap muthafuckas, whilst being disrespectful to bitches.
     
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    you're objectively negroid
     
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    Black Metal sounds dark, not neccasarily "evil". I understand the point you're making, however you're being completely biased, Christianity can be a religion that deals with a lot of dark topics, so why can't it fit the dark feel of Black Metal? Believe it or not, it's just not all about "Praise Jesus!"

    The same goes for Death metal, in another thread it was said that Christianity goes against Death metal because Death metal is essentially about "chaos, death and destruction", Christianity can deal with those topics as well.

    There's a broad variety of topics discussed in different pespectives in metal music in general, to me metal music and culture is about a certain sense of freedom and isn't confined to just hatred and evil, if you think it should be confined to that, I say you're listening to the music for the wrong reasons.
     
  9. no country for old wainds

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    1. "Evil" was obviously meant in context to Christianity.
    2. Nobody suggested it wasn't because we're conditioned that way, more that we're all conditioned similarly because in all our subjective little worlds music has evolved in exactly the same way.
     
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    And that's what progressive music is about. Taking what's supposedly "defined" and changing it.
     
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    is that you in the avatar.
     
  12. no country for old wainds

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    If it's no longer based on what defined it, you have to call it something different, or labels become useless.
     
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    To quote the beautiful VileRancour:

    and an elaboration from Grishnak:

     
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    Fourka Forget it

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    Yes, BM does not necessarily sounds evil, but it does sound dark, however I am not quite sure about the dark side of Christianity (I read that one on the Philosopher board). As far as I know, Christianity is about giving love and stuff like that. Can someone enlighten me please about the dark side of it that if expressed can easily result in a music that sound slike DM or BM?

    Certainly not, I listen to whatever music I like because it expresses my feelings and I like that. Whether it is evil or good, it doesn't really matter.
     
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    Fourka Forget it

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    If it is still called black metal it has to have at least the basic definition.
     
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    Expressed? No. I think he's referring to the idea that music can merely portray, rather than actually expressing something, yet I maintain that BM was from the start, by definition, an expression against Christianity or it was a portrayal of an alternative to Christianity.
     
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    My definition of black metal doesn't take feelings into consideration.
     
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    Yes, it can.

    If anyone would like to hear for themselves, I would be more than glad to send you some songs through AIM or MSN instant messenger.
     
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    You totally ignored his question. :erk:
     
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