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Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Zhou Tai 04, Apr 27, 2005.

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  1. Barking Pumpkin

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    No. It's Garm.......Arcturus, Ulver, etc.
     
  2. Barking Pumpkin

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    Really......from the responses you'd think black metal wasn't a musical genre. While lyrics might have some bearing, the music is 90% of what defines a genre.
     
  3. no country for old wainds

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    The mythology Quorthon became interested in was no more congruent with Christianity than the ideology of his earlier work. Death's later work was rock-orientated and far from innovative, so I discount it. And if somebody didn't record their ideas then they don't get credited, we can only go by what we know, as with the world. Regardless, all the bands notorious for having created and evolved the BM *scene* were certainly in opposition to Christianity.
     
  4. no country for old wainds

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    Read the quotes I posted earlier. :rolleyes:
     
  5. The Devil's Steed

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    Bathory didn't drop the Satanism because Quorthon felt it was a "mistake" or though they were "restraining the style". He did it because he got sick of rumors floating around everywhere and people questioning him on him if he was a Satanist and criticizing him for his alleged beliefs. It was about being sick of getting shit from people over his lyrics, not feeling they were restricting or anything along those lines.
     
  6. Barking Pumpkin

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    I still think that no matter what Ideology is put with it, Black Metal is put with feelings foremost, as is almost all music. When I hear black metal, I don't think about Anti-Christian music, I feel the emotions they're trying to convey. Everyone has the emotions conveyed, so if you have the musical skill and inspiration, you can create it.
     
  7. Under The Oak

    Under The Oak Ens Causa Sui

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    I was only saying that Quorthon moved his lyrics to his own country's religion, instead of bashing someone else's. If you regard Death's later work as "far from innovative", I suppose I'm dealing with more of a purist than I thought. Most of today's (good) music derives somewhat of an influence from classical music, if not a huge influence from it. So many of those classical composers were Christians and wrote just as dark and "inappropriate" music for the church that was seen as Christian black metal is seen today. We'll get over it in time.

    The only reason we have these Christian alternatives to so many styles is because faith is pretty much being left out of everything but "worship" music these days. I'm not sure thats a bad thing, but you do have to believe in what you sing in or else that passion and power isn't there to better the music. Somewhere along the way, people started singing about mindless crap like drugs, sex, booze, gang wars, and being as "evil" or anti-trendy as possible fit with that mentality, I suppose. Christianity happens to be a trend in this age, I'll admit it. It's just another form of rebellion (whether you like it or not) to criticize one of the big Western religions of today, but so it is with this Christian metal against all this Satanic, anti-religious stuff.
     
  8. Barking Pumpkin

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    I was going to bring this up about how Black Metal's large influence is Classical, which is Christian.....but he'd probably say something about how music started out Pagan or something so that's the original purpose. Whatever.
     
  9. Christie_fell

    Christie_fell Oh, the pain.

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    Checking out Crimson Moonlight right now.
     
  10. Darth Kur

    Darth Kur Misanthropic Naysayer

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    Fuck you. I've had it up to the hilt with arguing with you and your ilk. You've been brainwashed into stupidity and servitude and obviously are quite content in that position. I'd tell you to be happy with you're impotent god but he doesn't exist! And even if all your bullshit was true I'd have to go with satan then. At least he's not portrayed as a childish demanding psycho that demands everyone to go against every single natural urge that is built into us.
    I find it so offensive that you come here and try to spread your disease. Because that's what your sick little society demands, isn't it? Spread the word, don't hide your light under a basket and be fishers of men and all the worthless hogwash. Don't deny it. You think if you get people to listen to that shit then you can get your hooks in. All part of the plan. I would say that most here don't want to be part of your web of lies so shake the sand from your feet motherfucker and move on to the next place.
    Live your little fairytale life with blinders on and obey your zionist masters and go pound fucking salt for all that I care.
    And no, you did not "win" or any other bullshit. I'm not the fool that's pissing his life away on a pipe dream.


    There you go Zhou Tai 04, I edited it in with some "scriptural" references so now it isn't so baseless for ya, bucko.

     
  11. CF87

    CF87 Active Member

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    Not all of us choose to believe
    Some of us choose to live
    Not all of us follow so blindly
    And accept all that we hear

    Maybe you're not so smart
    To look outside yourself
    Maybe you've chosen unwisely
    In the God you've made your own

    I'll be my own leader
    I'll be my own saviour
    I'll be the strength that carries
    I'll be the light that guides...me
    I will make you see
    Your devotion is in vain
    I'll be the one left standing
    When all of you are kneeling
    And smiling, so content
    I'll wipe the smiles off your faces

    Don't you dare pity me
    I've made my choice and I'll prove you wrong

    My voice will thunder through the heavens
    And my flames of hatred burn
    I believe in me and only me
    And I bow to no sovereign
     
  12. BikerMiceFromMars

    BikerMiceFromMars New Metal Member

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    It's time you listened to your parents and start listening to bible singalongs.
     
  13. Zhou Tai 04

    Zhou Tai 04 Member

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    The last three posts were rather pointless.
     
  14. Zhou Tai 04

    Zhou Tai 04 Member

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    Such baseless hatred......
     
  15. CF87

    CF87 Active Member

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    We don't need religion, we need sex,drugs and rock & roll. We need M.I.L.F's and horny teachers to molest us.

    "Teacher caught me masturbating
    underneath the desk
    she looked at me and winked her eye
    said "see you after class"
    I heard the school bell ring that told
    me that the day was done
    she called me back and locked
    the door my lessons just begun
    Teachers pet
    Teachers wet
    Sitting down she crossed her
    legs her skirt crept up her thigh
    feeling something start to rise
    my thought began to fly
    You've been a naughty boy she said
    now that you can't conceal
    I'll have to punish you
    the best way that I feel
    Teachers pet
    Teachers wet
    She took my hand and gently placed it
    in between her thighs
    with open legs and heavy breath
    she slowly closed her eyes
    Her flesh was aching and her
    hands began to stray
    on thing that I know for sure
    I won't forget today
    Teachers pet
    Teachers wet
    Pulled me down forwards her mound
    teacher tasted sweet
    sixty-nine - I don't mean lines
    this was teachers treat
    Played hide and seek with teachers mouth
    her lips were warm and wet
    Now today I've had my way
    and teacher won't forget
    Teachers pet
    Teachers wet"
     
  16. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

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    Ahhh, how refreshing. You're like Nietzsche, but even dumber.
     
  17. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

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    quoted for emphasis...

    and Darth Kur, you're a fucking dolt and your arguments are shit.
     
  18. Nocturnal Silence

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    I love this thread.
     
  19. BikerMiceFromMars

    BikerMiceFromMars New Metal Member

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    NO FUCK U MAN!!!11
     
  20. anonymousnick2001

    anonymousnick2001 World's Greatest Vocalist

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    I'll just add my $0.02 and say that if I want to get in touch with God through music, I'd rather do it through some speed metal than "Amazing Grace." It depends on subjectivity. If the patterns, tones, and harshness of metal music is what strikes your fancy, you'll play that music as well. And if you believe in Judeo-Christian ideology, you'll reflect that in your lyrics. So you'll have metal music and "Christian" lyrics.

    OH NOES! CONTRADICTION! CONTRADICTION!
     
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