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Controversial opinions on metal

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. crimsonfloyd

    crimsonfloyd Active Member

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    If you're insinuating that Maiden have done the same thing over and over again, then you're obviously speaking from ignorance.

    And if "branching out" is you're nice way of saying compromising the quality of their music to make more money, then I'm fine with bands not "branching out".
     
  2. crimsonfloyd

    crimsonfloyd Active Member

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    Seriously? You have terrible taste. That album is phenomenal.
     
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    Point of Entry and Demolition are great albums. I'll take quality over integrity (if either can describe the last few Iron Maiden albums)
     
  4. crimsonfloyd

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    Whoa, slow down the hyperbole train. Do you honestly believe they are great albums? That's a term I would reserve from albums like Stained Class and SWOD. I can see why someone might enjoy those albums (ok, honestly I can't with Demolition), but I really don't see how anyone can consider them great.
     
  5. HamburgerBoy

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    Great in my book is an ~8/10; extremely enjoyable, but not necessarily reaching the pinnacle at any moment (unlike SWOD or Stained Class which basically are perfect). Although in the case of Point of Entry, I wouldn't hesitate to put Desert Plains up with anything else they've done, and the adjacent songs are almost as excellent. I'll admit that it peters out a little towards the end, but at worst it's average melodic rock. Demolition, on the other hand, is really high-quality for what is admittedly basically catchy 80's Priest anthems with lots of alternative/"modern" metal bits and production thrown in. The quasi-rapping is silly and there's the occasional bad idea, but on a whole it's highly singable and catchy. Feed on Me and Bloodsuckers are staight-up classic Priest rockers, and the other heavier songs, while having a lot more groove metal influence, are still very distinguishable from each other. imo they actually took all the typical radio metal of that era and improved on it. With 13 songs there's certainly a bit of filler, but nothing awful.

    Jugulator and Nostradamus are the only below average ones imo, and the latter could be saved with a lot of trimming.
     
  6. TechnicalBarbarity

    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    I'd rather listen to Maiden, but i couldn't give less of a shit about either of 'em.

    ... two of the most overrated bands of all time right there.
     
  7. Dak

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    I don't read this thread in months and I come into a Maiden/Priest argument?

    #whatelseisnew
     
  8. Mort Divine

    Mort Divine Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd

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    says the Death fanboy.
     
  9. Onder

    Onder Gegen unendlich

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    I'm on the Priest side, obviously. I don't even like most of Iron Maiden. Sometimes they have like a good chorus or a perfect riff, but it's all presented and accompanied with litres of nothingsauce. And sometimes it's just straightaway shitty.

    EDIT: It's of course a very influential and important band though.
     
  10. TechnicalBarbarity

    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    Whatever happened to your paramore sig?
     
  11. Bitencourt29

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    Just what I thought. Anyways, I'm a Maiden fan, never enjoyed any of Priest's albums, only a few songs. The last Maiden albums are all awful, the classic ones are amazing. Powerslave, Killers, Piece of Mind and Seventh Son are my favorites.
     
  12. Mort Divine

    Mort Divine Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd

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    I can always bring it back, but I see no point since I haven't listened to them much recently. That said I don't see the relevance here.
     
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    Says a guy whose favorite trad metal band is Manilla Road.
     
  14. Mort Divine

    Mort Divine Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd

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    WHOA

    WHOA

    WHOOOOAAAAAA

    Lets not go there
     
  15. HamburgerBoy

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    How can a band be very influential and important if most of what they wrote was "nothing"?
     
  16. King Richard

    King Richard Against the wind...

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  17. TechnicalBarbarity

    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    hold up ... what?

    Who are we talking about here?
     
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    Sorry, I misinterpreted a previous post you had made. Regardless, from it I can surmise that you still consider Maiden and Priest more overrated than Manilla Road.
     
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    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    not a big fan of MR either, but i wouldn't consider them overrated at all. They have some fucking solid material.

    Holocaust and Tank are/were just as good as any of those bands but never got the recognition they deserved.
     
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    J. Old Fart

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    Jesus fucking wept. You people. Did some of you get your first metal album in your stocking last xmas?

    Sabbath, Maiden, Skyclad, and Manilla Road are all excellent bands that have released stellar, essential material and some duds.

    I like black and death metal as much as the next guy, but no way is it better than True, Traditional Metal. Give me Manowar over goddamned Behemoth any day.
     

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