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Controversial opinions on metal

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. HamburgerBoy

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    Regarding how it can mean many things depending on how one wants to interpret it, but is credited as a distinct movement/sound when it's basically just one kind of riff (and one more derived from thrash than anything) repeated over and over. I've seen Swansong referred to as 90's Megadeth metal with raspy vocals, but tbh even Heartwork isn't far away from that. Only a few songs at most from that album even sound like melodeath in its current conception.

    As the term is currently and commonly used, it has little to do with death metal.
     
  2. ProphetofHatred

    ProphetofHatred We boogie on the floor

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    Words can have more than one meaning....

    Really what it means is melodeath is more centered around the "music" and "melody" than being dark, brutal, etc, so its more straightforward and simplistic, usually to the point where I think it sounds absolutely horrible.

    Also most of the bands substitute higher pitched vocals for the low growls, and also when they're doing lower growls in most melodeath its easy/easier to understand what the vocalist is saying, so the entire point really of melodeath is to be more accessible to the non-metal listener. This is why pretty much everyone who gets into metal these days starts at modern metalcore, deathcore, melodic death metal, pretty much anything that is currently "in".

    I just recently went to Broken Hope's metal-archives.com page, and it seems they get pretty poor reviews, I was wondering what do people around here think of em? I personally really like them, I kinda figured them for a better Cannibal Corpse, its not like they're drastically different, same concept on their old albums, brutal, mid paced death metal with gory lyrics.
     
  3. HamburgerBoy

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    Loathing is pretty spiffy and melodic/tech-death stuff IIRC. I don't think I ever bothered to check out anything else Broken Hope did.
     
  4. Krow

    Krow Garbage Connoisseur

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    I've only listened to swamped in gore more than once but I thought it was pretty good early brutal death metal. I have heard bits and pieces of the other albums or listened to them maybe once and the 0% on their new album is just some asshole looking for attention. There's no way that album is anywhere near a zero.
     
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    Krow Garbage Connoisseur

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    Wow what a cunt.
     
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    Well written regarding English proficiency, sure, but...

    korn korn sarcastic quotation marks not true x faux faux korn

    To be controversial, I do think that his review would be somewhat well-suited for Purgatory Afterglow, however (not regarding Korn influence or whatever, but just with how easy it is to make people think something is progressive death metal).
     
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    How do they allow that?
     
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    It's because he "discussed the music".
     
  11. The Ozzman

    The Ozzman Melted by feels

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    How the fuck do you give Discarnate a zero? What a fucking faggot.
     
  12. Kara-Shehr

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    Well I did say "some" and "kind of" either way I think it's fucking funny. That guy should post here, he would fit right in lol.
     
  13. Krow

    Krow Garbage Connoisseur

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    His review of Colored Sands

     
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    His reviews are basically just "I will insult this band by comparing it to a nu metal band" or I will compare this band to some mainstream band. He just constantly name drops popular bands (which he seems to know plenty about)

    He's pretty much the quintessential metal basement dweller and will only have ever came out of a vagina, never into one.
     
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    The problem with "melodic death metal" as a sub-genre is that it's marketing via irony.

    It's death metal, and yet, ironically, it's melodic.

    Implication: the nature of death metal is not melodic so we've come up with something new.

    Reality: most of it is warmed over heavy metal with a smidge of death metal technique, but not more... Heartwork is 1980s speed metal warmed over, as is Slaughter of the Soul (which lives up to its title).

    Death metal always had the capacity to be melodic.

    The first ATG album is both death metal, and melodic.

    But it's not melodic death metal(tm) with a big slab of AIDS butter on it.
     
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    The really funny thing is that he's right almost all of the time, where most metal reviewers praise the flavor of the moment and have zero concept of quality.

    :)
     
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    Pretty much no album deserves a rating of 0% - that shit is ridiculous.
     
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    I'm going to intentionally pretend to ignore your "pretty much" and post this cover art:

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