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Controversial opinions on metal

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. rms

    rms Active Member

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    read Ozzman's thread titled Worst IDea Ever :erk:
     
  2. The Ozzman

    The Ozzman Melted by feels

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    Yeah, I'm surprised Nec hadn't commented in that thread yet.
     
  3. cookiecutter

    cookiecutter Proceed to Ultraslamming

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    I agree
     
  4. demon ethereal

    demon ethereal I feel my soul go cold

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    This isn't my opinion per se but I've heard people say this before!!! So it DOES count as a controversial opinion on metal.

    "The metal genre was influenced by punk and is basically a heavier version of punk music".

    What?! Say it isn't true. I can't stand punk, does anyone have a logical and/or informed comeback to this?

    On that note..ive also heard people say that punk was heavily influenced by metal. So I really don't know what to believe now.
     
  5. Einherjar86

    Einherjar86 Active Member

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    Metal came from Sabbath, and Sabbath came before punk.
     
  6. zabu of nΩd

    zabu of nΩd Free Insultation

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    A lot of NWOBHM and thrash was influenced by punk, and by extension, you could say that their child genres (death, black, power, etc.) were as well. But to say metal is just a heavier version of punk is pretty silly. The two styles have much different mindsets, and some subgenres of metal have vastly different song structure too.
     
  7. mutantllama

    mutantllama Awesome custom title

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    virus nailed it. Same with Einhejarjarbinks.
     
  8. Thoth-Amon

    Thoth-Amon Hypochondriac

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    i didn't say they didn't fit... only that in and of themselves they aren't 'good'.
     
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    Thoth-Amon Hypochondriac

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    it would have been even more ingenious had dead not offed himself and sang on the album instead :p
     
  10. demon ethereal

    demon ethereal I feel my soul go cold

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    Thanks!! I'm satisfied now. :D
     
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    Thoth-Amon Hypochondriac

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    metal comes from blues rock originally... though punk did play an influence in the development of metal. why would it matter what influenced who though? its the finished product that matters.
     
  12. Zephyrus

    Zephyrus Tyrants and Slaves

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    Dead's vocals weren't meant for DMDS's production. Dead's are more straightforward and balls-out rough, perfect for a low-fi recording like Live In Leipzig. Attila doesn't rely on shouting. Instead he is more dynamic and in line with the darker feeling of DMDS.
     
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    I always found it interesting how black metal vocals became stereotyped a certain way when bands like Emperor (demo), Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Immortal, and Ulver all had pretty different vocal approaches.

    Something for the thread: Rush belongs in Metal Archives.
     
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    cookiecutter Proceed to Ultraslamming

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    Yeah that is strange. Now it seems bands either fall in the Darkthrone or Burzum camp vocally.
     
  15. Eligos

    Eligos Problem Yet to be Solved

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    Slayer sucks. Period. No member of their band is a good musician.

    Swedish BM is better than Norwegian BM.

    AVERSE SEFIRA IS INTENSE!
     
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    Thoth-Amon Hypochondriac

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    this is the controversial opinons thread... not stupid opinions thread :p
     
  17. Belligerent

    Belligerent Greekus Urungus

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    Correction: Hanneman and Lombardo are talented but King sucks shit.
     
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    sevag00 Order to Chaos

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    King is talented too.
     
  19. MasterOLightning

    MasterOLightning Optimator

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    Claiming that no one in Slayer is a good musician is unfounded. At the very least, it's overwhelmingly agreed upon that Lombardo is a great and influential metal drummer.

    What Swedish releases are you basing this on?

    Plenty of people think Averse Sefira is a good band.
     

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