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Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.
This album is better then any music you have posted
It would be great to know band/album title to make a decision on that opinion..
The band name and album title are literally written on the album art.
Is that Izo? I can't really tell..
Yeah, it's their self-titled, but I don't know what it sounds like at all.
I think most people like Holy Diver and The Last in Line even if they don't consider them to be on par with the Rainbow and Sabbath albums. Dio's career is still pretty consistent, and I happen to consider Killing the Dragon to be nearly his best solo album, but I think it's pretty clear that nothing he did in the 90s has that stand-out factor like the classics do. Like, Strange Highways, pretty darn solid album actually, but the earlier stuff was easily better.
EDIT: The more I think about it, people are actually pretty tolerant of older bands doing new stuff. On the greater scale of things, bands like Symphony X and Kamelot are loved for their relatively newer material while their older stuff is forgotten. Lots of Megadeth fans out there that appreciate most of what he's done in the 2000s. I don't hear "only the first album was good" when it comes to death metal bands like Dismember, Immolation, Asphyx, Bolt Thrower, etc with longer consistent discographies. Most people would put Maiden's 90s stuff far below their reunion stuff. Etcetcetc.
I agree Dio was absolutely consistent, I would add not recognized enough for his excellent solo career. The only album I had a hard time getting into was Master of the Moon, which at that point he was pretty old. But he had waaaaay more than 2 (Holy Diver, Last in Line) or even 4 good albums as you mentioned.
IRT Symphony X, I still visit the Symphony X boards on UM here from time to time. The fans are pretty much spread across the board. There are those who prefer their old sound which was more symphonic, and those that prefer their new, more metal sound.
I don't know a damn thing about Kamelot other than it's basically an even more cheesy and less good version of SX
So, in other words, you're taking your ball and going home?
I just don't get that guy. I , for the most part, prefer cleaner vocals as well but wnen you come to a metal discussion forum and basically trash extreme metal and make inconsistent and basically invalid arguments what exactly are you expecting? Lame o........
Controversial Opinion: Black metal is a dead-end in music.
Moved all the Michael Jackson related shit out of this thread.
Would you care to elaborate on why exactly you feel that way? Black metal has probably shown more potential to move in new directions than a lot of other metal.
ki- kill yourself fu- FAGGOt
Fine, I'll augment what I said:
Controversial Opinion: Black metal is a dead-end in good music.
In all seriousness though, I can't take anyone's opinions on metal or music seriously if they try to have such a limited opinion like that, because of all of the variety and possibility that black metal has as a genre.
It's one of the few metal styles that still has albums coming out that do new things rather than just sticking to what's been done to death. There are a lot of albums that don't reinvent the wheel too, but that's just like any other style of music.
God damn it!
You just got me to sit through 20 minutes of watching The Big Lebowski scenes. I'm supposed to be fucking working!
Well maneuvered Omni, well maneuvered!
I agree. just like when people say 'its produced so well, the music has to be shit'
imo, the entire concept of "potential" in a given style of music is bullshit. There are active trends, and there are dying trends. Black metal has strong crossover appeal to non-metal markets and hipster crowds, and so you find more bands taking it different places. There's little inherent to black metal's musical qualities that allows more musical breadth, however.
Like, someone show me some new black metal taking things in new, exciting directions without playing blackened ambient folkgaze.