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Controversial opinions on metal

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. no country for old wainds

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    i don’t agree that no first wave BM is black metal, but yeah venom will always be nwobhm to me. the return is when the first wave started to be recognisably BM.
     
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    Sirjack Stinkupuss

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    l didn't even remember this @Einherjar86 but you rec'd Aeternus - Beyond The Wandering Moon to me back when, and l gotta say, it's perhaps the only BM album l ever felt a slight affinity for apart from Meads of Asphodel and The Murder of Jesus the Jew. Still need to source this on vinyl. cheers ears
     
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  3. no country for old wainds

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    have you heard the follow-up? pretty great also
     
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    Beyond the Wandering Moon is basically strum-a-strum indie shit in black metal clothing. Horrible album.
     
  5. TechnicalBarbarity

    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    Beyond the Wandering Moon is basically for these types of dudes ....

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    CiG The Grand Calculation

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    Damn I gotta listen to it more I guess.
     
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    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    i didnt say these types ....
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    CiG The Grand Calculation

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    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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  10. no country for old wainds

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    i’d understand if you were talking about shit like ulver/panopticon/agalloch/etc, but aeternus are derived from folk and epic heavy metal, nothing indie about it
     
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    "folk"

    aka indieshit
     
  12. no country for old wainds

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    ahh now i understand your confusion, you think elliott smith invented folk music
     
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    Allfader Kvelding

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    You can't possibly mix Ulver's trilogie with utter shit like Panopticon, Agalloch and other lame acts that basically lacked balls to play black metal. Ulver at least always had the riffs, Garm's vocals and Nattens Madrigal is as raw and blazing as it gets.
     
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    I don't think about Elliot Smith. Are you implying that Aeternus passes as a legitimate revival of Scandinavian folk music or something? Aeternus' riffs are bottom-barrel indie-shitter strumming. It's not even a metal album, it's muzak.
     
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    i was thinking more of bergtatt, an album i like quite a bit (and way more than any agalloch or panopticon) but would definitely consider indie-fied, and probably the single biggest influence on all the lame navel-gazing atmo- offshoots to follow. i mean, it opens with a fucking my bloody valentine riff lol
     
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    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    Well... they were right about Voivod.
     
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    CiG The Grand Calculation

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    Der Morgenstern Trailer Park Bacchus

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