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Controversial opinions on metal

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. Opeth17

    Opeth17 Bill Ward's Red Pants

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    The B side of Paranoid is better than the A side.
     
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    CiG Sand Boondie ist Krieg!

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    Oof that's a tough one. My two least favourite songs are each on different sides, as are my favourite two songs...
     
  3. Opeth17

    Opeth17 Bill Ward's Red Pants

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    I'm not totally convinced by my own stance. I just really, really like Electric Funeral and Hand of Doom.
     
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    CiG Sand Boondie ist Krieg!

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    "Electric Funeral" is one of those least favourites of mine I mentioned haha, the other being "Iron Man."
     
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    Opeth17 Bill Ward's Red Pants

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  6. no country for old wainds

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    'war pigs' and 'hand of doom' i adore, i don't care for 'planet caravan' and 'rat salad' is a throwaway, all the other songs are good but not huge favourites. i'd say it's a tie for me but gun to my head i'd probably go for the A.
     
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    CiG Sand Boondie ist Krieg!

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    My two favourite tracks. I'd probably go with side B though, "Fairies Wear Boots" and "Hands of Doom" are so good.
     
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    Fairies Wear Boots and Electric Funeral are my faves so no contest for me. I'd put Hand of Doom 4th but not far behind War Pigs.
     
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    Pantera's Metal Magic has more of an NWOBHM/Def Leppard-type sound and is thus better than the 2 albums that followed it where they dialled the hair metal cringe up to 10.
     
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    Opeth17 Bill Ward's Red Pants

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    Albums like Mercenary, Stillborn, Back From the Dead, and Haunted are actually great and the reason most people dump on them is trendfaggery.
     
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    CiG Sand Boondie ist Krieg!

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    Haunted is boring but the rest I agree with.
     
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    Opeth17 Bill Ward's Red Pants

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    Bruh, how can you like Back From the Dead and not Haunted and Warpath? By the Light is the most Six Feet Under-est song outside of SFU's discography :lol: The whole album is more towards the Death/Groove spectrum where SFU sits than anything else they did.

    Allen West's leads on BtfD are great. They are on Haunted too but there's only a couple of them. That's one thing that might add to the album, but I otherwise enjoy it pretty thoroughly.
     
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    Barnes is a mess on Warpath. Haunted isn't bad just boring. The production is so fucking flat, the riffs are mostly decent, but they're basically doing the most vanilla version of mid-paced choppy riff death metal with little else to offer.

    I just disagree with calling the album great.

    Tardy is a way better vocalist than Barnes, especially by the mid-90's. Back from the Dead has way more energy and a way better production imo. Riffs might be about equal with Haunted but that's also arguable.
     
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    You know what's weird about Barnes is that some of his poorer vocal performances were done by choice. I read this in an interview where he spoke about trying to change his vocal sound and tone for each album. A lot of people think it's because his voice was shot, but that's probably a more considerable factor recently. On Warpath, I think he was intentionally trying to mix in some of the weird shouted/clean sung parts as a stylistic choice and it wasn't just because he couldn't pull off a deeper growl. He went back to a more guttural sound on Maximum Violence.

    Anyway, I love Haunted. I first heard "Tomorrow's Victim" on a Metal Blade compilation when I was 16/17 and dug the dark atmosphere. I have a soft spot for slow to mid-paced groovy DM. Lots of great riffs on that album, especially in "Silent Violence," "Beneath a Black Sky," "Human Target," and "Torn to the Bone." I find the production comment interesting because I think Haunted has a very full sound (moreso than BftD I would argue). Barnes's performance on Haunted is powerful as well. Warpath is definitely more up-tempo and the riffs on that one are incredibly catchy. It's more on the energetic side (REVENGE OF THE ZOMBIEEE) so I figure you'd like that one more if Barnes had employed his vocal approach from Haunted.

    A lot of the internet reviews trash Tardy's vocal performance on BftD with at least one person saying "he doesn't sound like himself." I can understand to some extent, but I don't mind. It sounds like he shortened up his delivery some to match the more upbeat, compact grooves on that album, but he definitely sounds exactly like John Tardy.

    I wonder how much West and Peres influenced each other's writing for BftD and Warpath (which came out the same year) because there are a lot of similarities in the riffing. BftD is just a very SFU sounding album to me which is probably why a lot of people crap on it.

    Listen to the opening riffs on these two together:




    "Platonic Disease" too; I could imagine that one on an SFU album.

    Barnes interview:
    "I understand when people say, 'Oh he doesn't sound like he did on that album or song.' Well yeah, that's how it's always been on every album. I've had a different vocal sound and that is purposeful. I wouldn't want it any other way. I don’t like to blanket a specific sound over everything."
     
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    Controversial?

    John Tardy is the best living death metal vocalist.
     
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    The Butt Unholy gas, flares from my ass

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    Metal is gay

    Jokes though sup yall
     
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    pokemon go is gay
     
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