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Controversial opinions on metal

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. King Richard

    King Richard Against the wind...

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    I'm pretty sure every band you listen to rips off other bands. Nothing new here.
     
  2. Orion Crystal Ice

    Orion Crystal Ice Rider of the Astral Fire

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    since I don't have any reason to listen to Muse or DT past ACOS the answer is noooooooooooooooooooooooo :eek:
     
  3. Savern

    Savern Dr. Death in training

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    Yeah muse influence is very obvious on Octavarium and Systematic Chaos, its a bit annoying at times, But I'm a big Muse fan so its all good.
     
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    Yeah that was one thing that put me off Octavarium, the blatant rip-offs. One track was a U2 rip-off as well as the Muse track already mentioned.

    I realize this might be truly controversial but I regard TRain of Thought as one of their best, if not tthe best, moment. The rivaling albums to the throne are Images and Words as well as Awake (probably in that order).

    I didnt "get" Scenes From a Memory for years but suddenly it clicked and its behind these three albums. Octavarium on the other hand is a hard one for me. I absolutely LOVE the title track. Probably one of my favorite songs ever. The rest of the album is bland and boring and filled with rip-offs. But since Octavarium (the track) is about 30 minutes long its worth getting the cd for.

    That leaves Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (I havent hear anything else by Dream Theater enough to judge it). Actually I cant really judge this one either. Seperately the track from disc 1 are mostly good but there is something boring about listening to all of it. I used to love cd 2 but it was a long time since I heard it now and I cant judge it that well. It reminds me of Symphony X's "The Odyssey". While I prefer DT overall that SX song is one of the best I have ever heard. Yes, Im a sucker for long songs :)
     
  5. Orion Crystal Ice

    Orion Crystal Ice Rider of the Astral Fire

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    Six Degrees Of Inner Toolisms
     
  6. Vegard Pompey

    Vegard Pompey ALLY TO GOOD, NIGHTMARE TO YOU

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    I think it's a good thing when established bands like Dream Theater draw influence from bands to come after them. I see too many legendary bands stick to the same style they got popular with, sometimes ripping off a popular recent band in a hopeless attempt to modernize their music.

    And Muse is damn good too.
     
  7. Omni

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    That was a lame fanboy comeback if I've ever seen one. :lol:
     
  8. Orion Crystal Ice

    Orion Crystal Ice Rider of the Astral Fire

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    DT also tends to be one of those few 'clean vocal' bands ONLY EXTREME METL!!111 people listen to along with DragonForce and Evanescence, and they aren't aware it's all shitty because they're already totally adverse to anything good in the genres.
     
  9. S<issors

    S<issors wins.

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    ^What a bizarre and inaccurate comment

    ToT > Six Degrees and Octavarium by a good deal, Scenes is their best, and Awake > Images. Personally speaking. I agree with the general shape of your list, though.

    They wore their influences too openly on Octavarium, for sure. Root of All Evil was good, though, as was the title track

    ToT was much better than people give it credit for, In The Name of God is one of their best songs, and This Dying Soul is great too
     
  10. King Richard

    King Richard Against the wind...

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    Actually my "comeback" had nothing to do with me being a fan of DT or any band for that matter.
     
  11. The Ozzman

    The Ozzman Melted by feels

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    FOR THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND
    I EXTEND MY HAND
    TO THE DOUBTFUL I DEMAND
    TAKE ME AS I AM
     
  12. S<issors

    S<issors wins.

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    he raps on Honor Thy Father

    I winced
     
  13. Omni

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    Well, would you care to tell me what bands my favorite artists are ripping off? I can't seem to figure it out.
     
  14. whiskey funeral

    whiskey funeral Mother North

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    WTH is up with all the recent Dream Theater fellatio on here?
     
  15. The Ozzman

    The Ozzman Melted by feels

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    Dream Theater is awesome LDO
     
  16. King Richard

    King Richard Against the wind...

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    Figure it out for yourself. Playing the ignorance card isn't helping your case fyi.
     
  17. Omni

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    Oh, that's right. You can't actually tell me because it isn't true.
     
  18. AwesomeGuy

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    I don't think a band is automatically bad if they rip off another band a bit, I don't think all nu-metal is bad and I think every album from metallica is good. with that, I actually like metallica through reload the most.
     
  19. Omni

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    I don't even remember saying that Dream Theater was bad for copying Muse a bit on some recent songs, he just took it as an automatic negative and made a claim about my favorite bands that he can't back up. ;)
     
  20. Dak

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    agreed
     

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