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Controversial opinions on metal

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. cookiecutter

    cookiecutter Proceed to Ultraslamming

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    Agreed

    This is pretty much the only type of black metal I listen to. I think there are two camps within black metal. One camp is the evil, satanic, "regular" black metal, and then there is the kind of black metal that uses black metal's darkness for emotional effect rather than to create a sense of evil. The first kind is definitely more true to the genre's founding ideals, but personally it's the second kind I find more engaging. I think aggression in metal is more convincing in thrash and death metal settings than it is in most black metal.
     
  2. SouthernTrendkill

    SouthernTrendkill Super Normie

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    I'm with you to an extent. I like both sides of Black Metal but I've never really considered it aggressive. I mean, to be honest, if I knew nothing about Burzum I would never guess that he had killed someone. Burned churches, maybe. Sure maybe Burzum is an outlier but Mayhem, Darkthrone, it's harsh but serene music. I've nver really gotten a "mutilate the masses" vibe from it...

    'Course that might just be me... when I used to listen to Burzum at work I had people comment on how angry the music was, on more than one occasion. 'Course at work they said similar things about Rammstein so I think it has to do with them not being familiar with metal. On the other hand maybe I've just been desensitized by all the metal. Just seems second nature to me.
     
  3. Dak

    Dak mentat

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    I think desensitization is a major contributer. I listen to rock/alternative I used to think was sooooo heavy before I started to listening to metal, and now it's like, WTF is this weak stuff.

    Rammstein is a joke to someone who has listened to even something like Fear Factory, so for someone who doesn't listen to anything heavier than The Killers(not that I ever did), Burzum is way over the top.
     
  4. Lateralus14

    Lateralus14 New Metal Member

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    I think the only reason the above people don't appreciate said kinds of black metal is because it has an entirely different appeal. If they actually liked post-rock and shoegaze in the first place, they'd probably appreciate it more. So that statement reads more like "Post rock and shoegaze suck" to me.
     
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    I tend to live vicariously through my music, so that's why I appreciate energetic and aggressive music over the brooding and atmospheric stuff. My personality is very low key and subdued.
     
  6. Einherjar86

    Einherjar86 Active Member

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    Excellent point.
     
  7. Vilden

    Vilden From the holy kingdom of Harmonia

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    Post-rock is pretty meh though I love shoegaze but black metal should not touch those genres imo.
     
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    I dislike both full on satan/aggressive black metal like Marduk and full on soothing/atmospheric black metal like Drudkh. There has to be more than one element there for me to click with it.
     
  9. gundamterran

    gundamterran Devouring the Gorepoflesh

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    Drudkh is amazing though! I'll agree on the whole Marduk/Norsecore bandwagon though. It's fun for the extremity, but it gets very monotonous.
     
  10. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

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    Drudkh blows.
     
  11. Xorv

    Xorv Drug the Priest

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    ya we know.

    - I like all types of BM ranging from alcest shoegaze, enmekar ambient, silencer depressing, and more and more. The point is is that it's not so much what you incorporate into BM, even if it's bollywood BM I'd still give it a listen, it's how you structure and incorporate genres in your music.
     
  12. Xorv

    Xorv Drug the Priest

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    I'm the only ones who disagrees.
     
  13. gundamterran

    gundamterran Devouring the Gorepoflesh

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    I don't mind DSBM, but theres too many bedroom bands popping up. Post-Rockish BM and Shoegaze/BM is pretty good though.

    Enslaved is probably the only Norwegian BM band that I'm truly still enjoying to this day other then Burzum. :S
     
  14. V.V.V.V.V.

    V.V.V.V.V. Houses Ov Mercury

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    Profanatica is one of the best black metal acts ever and Paul Ledney is a goddamn genius (or at the very least, idiot savant).
     
  15. Addo_Of_Nex

    Addo_Of_Nex Fuck of Death

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    Excellent opinion.
     
  16. ASD

    ASD observing the sabbath

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    DSBM is boring.

    Post-rock/shoegazey black metal is great.
     
  17. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

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    It's sad to see so much falsity among supposed black metal fans around here. I thought it was obvious that mixing black metal and post-rock, shoegaze, etc. is utter faggotry and is basically a watering down of a once exciting genre. Weak.
     
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    maybe some people like the new version of black metal and not the old version.
     
  19. Addo_Of_Nex

    Addo_Of_Nex Fuck of Death

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    Yeah, but those people are wrong.
     
  20. gundamterran

    gundamterran Devouring the Gorepoflesh

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    I agree. At first after reading some parts of his interviews, I honestly believed he was trolling the black metal scene, because everything was taken so far, but holy shit.
     

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