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cool effect for ends of screams/guitar ring outs etc

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by dan weapon, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. dan weapon

    dan weapon Planet Smasher

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    i'm sure many of you have thought of this before, but on the last album I recorded I came up with a cool way to make screams or guitar rings outs or final drum hits etc to fade away (rather than simply automating the delay/verb send higher at the end)

    Basically whatever it is you want to 'disappear', copy that section onto a track so you have two identical parts running parallel to one another. On the duplicated track, stick on a pretty hefty LP filter at the end of the chain; say somewhere between 800hz-1.5khz... depends how extreme you want to go. You could also stick a touch of large verb on this track as well.
    Now as the scream starts, you automate the volume on the main track to go from full volum to silence. Then do the reverse on the LP/verb duplicated track, automating from silence to what ever final volume you want.

    And there you have it. Rather than simply sticking on more verb or delay at the end of a scream, this will make it disappear in a slightly more 3D way.
     
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    why making copies?! put that LP on the original and automate wet/dry knob (and possibly also makeup gain)...
     
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    any clips to see how this sounds? thanks
     
  4. outbreak525

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    +1

    Sounds interesting.
     
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    Cool technique indeed :) A similar thing I've used at times is to put a huge reverb on the main vocal line, with a 100dry/0wet ratio, and then automate the ending to go to a 0dry/100wet ratio. It sounds a bit like the vocal falls into an infinite hole.
    An example of this sound (at least I think it's what has been done there) is the ending of Opeth's Black Rose Immortal. It's done with the guitar there.
     
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    I still love do the following when a special vocal part starts:

    1.) Duplicate the vocal part
    2.) Reverse the duplicated part
    3.) Render a huge reverb on the reversed part
    4.) Re-Reverse the vocal part back to the original...

    Since the reverb was rendered on to the reversed part, now after it is reversed again it go's from a far distance to the nearest distance.

    Now the only thing you have to do, is to blend with the regular track...

    Everyone probably knows that one, but this is one of my favorites....
     
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    Aye, lash a clip up Dan, I'm interested in hearing this.
     
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    Backe Space Cowboy

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    this sounds like a bit of work for just an effect, but cool none the less. clip plz!
     
  9. Heabow

    Heabow More cowbell!

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    Sounds interesting. Gonna try this out.
     
  10. dan weapon

    dan weapon Planet Smasher

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    Cool, will fire up a clip when I get the chance. And yeah, UMF - that reverse verb trick is a classic. I use it on quite a few things rather than just vocals too.
     
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    It is really rad. Been doing this on a few tracks from a few years ago. I sometimes record a double of the last note/chord of section ie Chorus. Hold the chord for 2 - 4 bars. Then do a steep fade in on that chord and make it very wet. At the end of the section the wet signal reaches its peak and hangs over and creates a big roomy tail.
     
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    very interested in all those techniques as well. +1 to clips if you guys ever get the chance.
     
  14. outbreak525

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    I once put reverb on a track BEFORE the compression. Completely brings out the reverb in a really awesome way.
    You can hear a sample if you click "Equinox of the Gods" in my signature 1:48 into the first track.
     
  15. TwoGOneSee

    TwoGOneSee Musical Hack

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    Dude, that stuff is trippy! Love it, keep it up!
     
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    You guys gotta try this:
    1. send your vocals to a HUEG reverb
    2. set the send to pre-fader
    3. the effect output volume should be 0
    4. Automate the output volume up in certain parts, so the reverb tail of a phrase swells into the next line
    5. Automate the volume down, as soon as the singer starts again

    Examples in this song (from about 2:30 on):
     
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