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Discussion in 'ProgPower USA' started by Cheiron, Oct 7, 2009.
I actually take offense to this. Considering the talentless crap you have been jocking, you have a lot of nerve to accuse us (people who like Muse) of not having taste dude.
I have no idea how on an underground music forum, people use CD sales figures to justify how good a band is (IE - MUSE in this case).
As someone pointed previously with MASTODON, they have the machine working for them. (IE - MTV, Radio airplay, Guitar Hero).
I am certainly not suggesting that a band is NOT a good band, based on heavy promotion. What I am suggesting though is that just because you sold a large number of units does not automatically justify greatness.
Who is saying that they're good because they sell lots of albums?
I don't see a single post in this topic claiming that. At all.
Muse - The Resistance is a great new album... Can't stop listening to it...
Muse is a good band, but I wouldn't remotely call them progressive.
The only reason I know they exist is that they're on tour with U2 in the US right now. Otherwise I would have never heard of them. U2 is the only mainstream band I still follow (well, I follow Rush, if you call them "mainstream").
Edit: Watched a couple of those YouTube videos... typical British alternative/modern rock stuff. Nothing unique, very generic.
Funny, I think they are one of the most distinctive bands out there right now....you can identify pretty much any Muse song within the first few seconds. There's nothing "typical" about them, IMO.
Totally agree with that! Love this band though they're more alternative prog rock in my mind. Whatever, I hate the genre hair splitting. I didn't even mind when they used some drum playback stuff on a song or two they last recorded. It sounded cool as hell. They do some really creative percussion stuff.
Porcupine Tree is my number one current best-seller for prog-metalish. They were awesome at Terminal 5 a few weeks ago. Gavin's a tight but somehow monstrous.
This thread goes to prove the upper echelon snob mentality of the Prog people....
Yeah, I guess we should all start writing a band off based on a sentence from their wikipedia article to get rid of our snobbery.
Excuse me? I have EVERYTHING you can imagine in my iPod to give you an idea... From Hammerfall to Pain of Salvation, from Sinatra to Rihanna, from Beyonce to Muse, from Immortal to fucking bossa nova. I really hope you're not talking about me. Afterall, it wasn't me who snobbed a band based on their description on Wikipedia.
But if you're not, then just disregard this post.
Look at your posts dude. Look at your behavior talking about Muse. "Welcome to the vomit party" or whatever... "So was Britney but she didn't do anything blah blah blah..." Seriously, who's acting like a snob here?
No, if anything it proves that you need to open your mind a bit more and listen to more than just metal. I listen to waaayyy more than just prog.
Anyone ever see the Maiden video where they do that exact thing? Hilarious!
Out of curiosity is betselling a relevant factor? Because from those in the list I only care for Rush (and not the entire catalog) and Dream Theater (which lately tries very hard to piss me off). So leaving the money factor aside what about:
The Flower Kings
Agents Of Mercy
Scale The Summit
Beyond The Labyrinth
if only dredg were the highest or even higher in sales than they are.
the word progressive creates more arguments than solutions. I swear. Call it whatever you like. If you think Muse sucks, good for you. If you think Muse is good, but they don't sound like the prog or progressive you like and others describe them as, fine.
And if you like them, and don't really care how they are described, good for you too.
Higher sales does =/= superior quality. But it can = influence and longevity. If Muse ends up having a longer career and influencing a lot more bands you like, the number of albums they've sold is worth something just for that itself.
Also, I'd say Radiohead is the largest in terms of sales among the artists I and many others describe as "alt-prog" or anything described as progressive rock, that's an artist that formed since 1990.
Mind you, I happen to not like Radiohead, but would never deny their influence or level of success.
Tool is probably 2nd, and also from a personal standpoint, they are another band who I respect their influence but am not a fan of.
i would say they are more "alternative" than anything else. it's not like when they decided to do electronic music it hadn't been done before. it had. don't mistake me "The Bends" was the best rock album released the year it came out, hands down.
i really like Muse, but they want to be bombastic like Queen so then how could they be called progressive? they aren't really, they are an amazing rock band i will surely give them that since i own all their CDs.
Reading this thread is like banging my head against a wall repeatedly, except that, in this case, aspirin doesn't make the pain go away.
Relevant to what? Relevant to the question? Yes. Relevant to personal taste? Of course not.
I think it's only relevant given the original question/reason for this post. "Who are the best selling prog bands nowadays..."