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Death metal drum kit

Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by Xenopethgears, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. Xenopethgears

    Xenopethgears New Metal Member

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    What are the pieces unique to death metal drums? Also how much does a decent kit cost on the average? Not top of the line but also not the cheapest one. Is it ok to buy drums at your local guitar center/starving musician or whatever or do they rip you off? Keep in mind I know nothing about drums at all :Spin: Thanks for any input.
     
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  3. Xenopethgears

    Xenopethgears New Metal Member

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    First, blastbeat? Also I was thinking there were some pieces that were used in death metal more often than other genres. If not could someone just tell me what Martin uses, let's say for Deliverance. Thanks. Oh also what's a good price for a middle-range drum set. Probably what, 7 or so pieces? I was thinking probably around 750$. I have no idea though. I was thinking about looking at some drums tomorrow, I just wanted some advice so I'm a little more educated when I go. And it doesn't hurt to know that I want a kit used for metal because I'm sure it differs from ya know, pop or something.
     
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    the_drip Martriden K

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    a proper death metal drum set has wind chimes, a set of bells, and a very large gong.

    oh and woodblocks and COW BELL.
     
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    Anarkissed BOK CHOY!!!

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    Dont forget the triangle!
     
  6. Pseud0

    Pseud0 New Metal Member

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    to actually try to help, you are going to need at least - a snare, 3 to 4 toms including a floor tom, a pair of hihats, a ride, crash, bass drum, double bass pedal (you could always get two bass drums and two single pedals, its preferance)

    thats basically the most important pieces

    a blast is when you repetitively hit a snare over and over, there are many combinations with the other parts of the drum kits to form different types of blasts. Pick any cannibal corpse song - its basically all mindless blasting
     
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    Stay with known brands and update when you know what YOU want to add to your kit.
     
  8. Nairolf

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    WELL flo uses chimes so its not such a silly suggestion after all but for starting out dont bother with them.

    For the very beginning all you need is the basic kit with another double bass, thats it. Don't add anything until you've exhausted what you want to do with what you got, anyway for starters you need to nail co-ordination and the like.

    Do this, this is for accuracy and stamina (bass hits are capital snare hits are lower case)

    rrrrllllrrrr - for 2 mins

    rrrrrrrrllllllll - 2 mins

    rrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllll - 2mins

    rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllll - 2mins

    do at a comfortable speed and repeat for the bass drums spending a total of 16 mins. at NO point use shoulders or the larger muscles to give the power. Hold the sticks between first finger and thumb only and use the fingers to help hit so not all the strain is on the wrist.

    You also want to develop co-ordination between the four parts so do this (capitals for bass, lower case for snare)

    RlRlRlRl - 2 mins

    RrRrRrRr - 2 mins

    LlLlLlLl - 2mins

    LrLrLrLr - 2 mins

    (btw, these are essentially what blastbeats are, there are variations but basically alternating bass with snare)

    also, join a death metal forum (this doesn't count) such as origin, nile or morbid angel and go to the musician section, you learn a lot there.

    BE RELAXED when playing as soon as you starting tensing up you are doing something wrong, rethink technique. George Kollias of nile does double bass and blast beats ata 265 bpm with true 16th notes, when he does it he is incredibly relaxed, no tension. Dont rely on the "shiver" effect of tensing muscles.

    Also learn lots of rudiments. little sequences that can be trasnferred to different parts of the kit such as

    rllrrrll - do this on snare and hi-hat, then hi-hat and crash etc, these are excellent for working the kit and learning where everything is and placment of where your playing.

    Stool should be so that your legs are a ta 90 degree angle.

    and theres probably mroe but iim off for lunch now so :wave: hope thuis helps
     
  9. [KOTNO]Narrot

    [KOTNO]Narrot Eats and spits corpses...

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    i don't think the thread starter will get the 'RrLl' symbols when he never played drums before...

    i am not sure either which is for arms and which for feet...
     
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    Capitals = feet

    lower case = hands.

    sorry about that, hope its clearer now
     
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    oh fuck off you cunt ^

    YOU give advice then instead of saying what i didnt do (and i said i hadn't written about everything) YOU help him or just fuck off from this thread
     
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    correction YOU fail due to the fact that you explain that paradiddles exist but you clearly dont know what they are. Go on, explain
     
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    well done^

    saved me typing a whole load of Rs and Ls :)
     
  14. Xenopethgears

    Xenopethgears New Metal Member

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    Thanks for the helpful replies.
     
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    The "Lopez beat" is essentially a double paradiddle played on the ride and snare, with the Ls played by ghost notes and accents on snare and the Rs on the ride. There's also bass drum reinforcement. It's a fun and easy beat.
     
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    ^nice to know :)
     
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    A double bass pedal is essential because it won't come standard on sets. Mine was $120 used, but they range from $150 to $500. You might want to start with a used set, just in case you end up not being very committed. To get a good metal sound you definitely need to pad your drum heads. Taping a folded kleenex or paper towel to each head should get you a pretty good sound. Put either a towel or blanket inside your bass drum and try to get a head with a hole cut out for the front.

    A standard five piece should be good enough. A crash, ride, and hi-hat are necessary; a splash cymbal is great too.

    Buy a pair of heavy duty marching sticks and practice rudiments with those on a practice pad (cheap, $10) to build your muscles. Then when you switch to 5Bs, you'll be a lot quicker.
     
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    ^ dont you play guitar?
     
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    im impressed
     

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