I agree with you here. I seem to have igored the Coroner argument all along. I'm not familiar with the band, and I checked them out a little. From what I heard, there is some similarity. However, Death had the lead guitar emphasis since ITP. Symbolic came out just as the whole Swedish melodic style was taking off. I think Human sounds much more like Cynic than TSOP. I just pulled out Focus today and listened real hard. I hear such a similarity between the riffing style of Human and Focus. It's hard to pick out because Focus switches to the ambient interludes and jazz style at the drop of a hat, but the main heavy riffs in Veil Of Maya reek of Suicide Machine, and the guitar leads in Textures sound like a lot of the ones in Cosmic sea and Flattening Of Emotions and Suicide Machine. I think both bands influenced each other a lot, and the similarities you hear are the remnants of that influence. TSOP does have some rocknroll elements, like the song Bite The Pain, and obviously, Painkiller. But Flesh And The Power It Holds is an 8-minute epic. It has a very linear sprawl to it, although the riffs are similar throughout. One could argue that it's due to the noodling, but I sense a definite point A and point B in that song. Also, many songs on TSOP don't have a verse and chorus. They repeat one time, like Scavenger Of Human Sorrow, if I'm not mistaken. Or it's like Spirit Crusher, where there s a chorus, but no conventional song structure. It's like intro-verse-noodling-chorus-noodling-verse-noodling-verse-chorus solo-chorus-noodling-outro. Not conventional in my book. I see what you're saying, but I really do think that the comparison is being stretched quite a bit. It's like saying Cryptopsy sound like Led Zeppelin. Some things are the same, but others are quite different. Oh, so true.