Hey, don't yell! I know that this is the place where "true" metal heads hanging out, but I still consider that Deftones is something quiet different and special on american rock scene. And I don't think it's just another nu metal band. And, believe it or not, I find it very common to Katatonia. Oh, stop it! I'm not talking about music (by the way Deftones' Minerva is a little bit like Tonight's Music), I think they are common in some emotional background and some mood, may be. I'm great fan of Katatonia for a very long time, and couple monthes ago I accidentaly began listen to Deftones. And now if you ask me to call my two favorite bands, I'll say: Deftones and Katatonia. So if you wish we can just try to discuss Deftones here. P.S. Daniel is a fan of Deftones.