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Discussion in 'Testament' started by Deadline, Apr 18, 2007.

  1. Ancient Rabid One

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    Testament began as Legacy back in 1984 in the town of Alameda, California. Drummer Louie Clemente met up with Derrick Ramirez looking to start a band. Unfortunately, Derrick had to work during the day and had no time to play, so Derrick hooked Louie up with his cousin, Eric. This turned out for the better as Eric became the Testament guitarist.

    The band soon found out that the name Legacy was already in use by another band that had broken up. They had no money to buy the rights to the name, so they ended up using the name Testament, which was offered to them by none other than Billy Milano of S.O.D. and M.O.D. fame. Steve Souza, the original vocalist, was contracted to work with Exodus. Steve contacted a friend of his, Chuck Billy, asking him if he wanted to join the band. He tried out, and he was accepted as the Testament vocalist. During this time, the band was in the process of signing a record deal with MegaForce. With Chuck on vocals, Testament recorded their first full-length album, The Legacy, a brutal demonstration of classic thrash metal. Chuck, Eric, Greg, Alex, and Louie went on to record four more successful studio albums. (See Discography)

    After the 5th album it became clear that Alex and Louie were having creative differences with the rest of the band. Since the release of The New Order in 1988, the band had become increasingly over-produced and simplistic. This was due to Alex writing many of the songs, as well as compromise within the band. He and Louie wanted to be more mainstream and for the band to have radio and MTV accessibility. Chuck and Eric, however, wanted to keep it brutal and stick to their thrashier roots. Alex announced to the band after the tour for The Ritual that it would be his last. Chuck and Eric were surprised at first, but soon realized that they now had the freedom to do what they wanted and make heavier music. Later in the tour, Louie also left the band.

    In 1994, Testament released a groundbreaking album, Low. With newly acquired guitarist James Murphy and drummer John Tempesta, Testament recorded their heaviest album ever. Like a return to form of the early days, the album was fast, dark, and heavy. It also featured an emotional ballad as well as two instrumentals. Many of the fans considered it their best album, however, it was not promoted by Atlantic, their record company at the time. John Tempesta soon left the band to join White Zombie, and Testament acquired former Evil Dead drummer Jon Dette. At around the same time, the band left the Atlantic label, mainly because the guys thought the label had done a less than adequate job managing and promoting the band (not to mention asking them to record an 'alternative' album). With Dette, the band released Live at The Fillmore in 1995 on their own Burnt Offerings label with help from producer Johnny Z. It shows that both Murphy and Dette had no trouble learning Alex and Louie's parts. Unfortunately, the band's future was in jeopardy after the release of the ...Fillmore album. James Murphy wanted to concentrate on a solo album, Greg and Jon had arguments with the band, and all three guys split. In order to continue writing, Chuck and Eric acquired Chris Kontos, who had recently left Machine Head. Chris suggested they change their name to Dog Faced Gods and start over. However, it was clear that his idea would not work out. Testament officially broke up in the middle of 1996.

    In late 1996, Chuck and Eric got back together to write new material. Eric brought his cousin Derrick into the band to play bass. Former Death and Dark Angel drum god Gene Hoglan was called in to perform the drum tracks for the album. Glen Alvalais, who was previously in the band in 1993 on Return To The Apocalyptic City, was acquired to play on tour for the live material. Chuck and Eric along with Derrick and Gene recorded Demonic, the heaviest Testament album to date. Chuck and Eric broke down all of the boundaries and made no compromises in recording some of the year's most powerful material. Soon after the album was released, Gene announced his commitment to Strapping Young Lad, who Testament was scheduled to tour with later in the summer. Testament needed a new drummer for the upcoming tour. It was decided that Jon Dette would be contracted to fill the part. He toured with the band until early 1998, when he announced that he would be leaving once again.

    At around the same time Jon Dette left the band, Testament was in the process of writing new material for a projected 1999 release. Chuck and Eric were again the major creative forces in writing the material. It was said from the beginning that the album would be a combination of sorts between the variety found on the Low record and the brutality found on Demonic. Things started to get better and better for the band, as it was announced that James Murphy had returned to play guitar for the band, and Dave Lombardo (ex-Slayer, Grip Inc.) was going to perform the drum tracks for the upcoming album. Later down the line, bassist Steve DiGiorgio (ex-Death and Sadus) was announced as another addition to Testament's lineup. With Murphy, Lombardo, and DiGiorgio, Testament had a lineup consisting of some of the most talented players in the rock/metal scene today in addition to the creative and musical talents of Chuck and Eric. With the above mentioned lineup, Testament released The Gathering on June 8th, 1999, and it has yet to disappoint.


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  2. Ancient Rabid One

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    So this know it all has the humility to post something that proves some of his facts wrong. I was spot on on many of my point's. But much to your dismay it didn't quite go down like you said either, bub. Have you any humility? And how valid are you now?
     
  3. Sole Reaper

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    For the love of crap, just agree to disagree and knock it off. I'm not taking anyone's side, I'm just saying everyone has different opinions and leave it at that. I know I've had my share of arguments here and it doesn't lead anywhere. Find common ground like Testament rules and leave it at that. We can express different opinions without attacking one another. Everyone have a beer (kool-aid for those of you underage), listen to some Testament and chill.
     
  4. redfly

    redfly Ruled By The Riff

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    I agree.I could go find an old interview that will say something else...I'm done, it's gone way past the point of interesting I don't have the time to read all that and couldn't careless in the first place.I apologize to everyone who wasted their time on this. Testament rules.. peace
     
  5. Ancient Rabid One

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    What an idiot you are. You couldn't care less in the first place and yet look how much you contributed to this thread. Fucking clueless! :rolleyes:
     
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    No offense ARO, but my post was more directed towards you than anyone. You've made your point, now leave it alone.
     
  7. Ancient Rabid One

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    No offense taken. I'm no pansy. I can take it!!!

    Leave it alone? That depends on certain factors. One is not in my hands. The other I control : Those being treating others as I have been treated. If redfly wants to say I'm being aggressive with him when I mearly asked a few questions and then gets truly agressive with me after made it a point to keep it mellow. Oh yeah, I damn sure will respond in kind. So I made my points, eh? Try telling that to redfly who finds me invalid for making valid statements. Perhaps you can answer a question for me? Is this a board for discussion or for cry baby clicks who only stroke one another's egos? I've been members of countless metal boards and have even moderated several. On those boards we didn't play patty cakes and stroke each other's egos, we discussued metal. Kind of hard to discuss metal with someone who refuses to answer questions. LOL!!!
     
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    I think you can answer whether or not it's a discussion board. As far as stroking one another's ego. It's about having a mutual respect for your fellow metalheads. People can disagree without flaming each other. Just because someone starts name calling or flaming doesn't mean you have to respond the same way. I was in a dispute with Redfly before, but I didn't handle it in a mature way. I have nothing against him or you. If you want to consider it patty cakes, or stroking other people's egos for trying to be civil that's entirely your choice, but you won't be making many friends here. Perhaps you don't want to.
     
  9. Naglfar

    Naglfar As Naglfar devours us all

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    rofl

    you guys are hilarious

    also, didn't you just post the inside of the signs of chaos booklet

    whatever anyone tries to argue, demonic was a testament album, and just because chris kontos, who was around for a couple of months, thought they should start over with a new name doesn't mean it doesn't belong under the band name, especially considering chuck and eric are the heart and soul of testament (no dis to the other guys intended)

    arguing for respect and making a big deal out of FUCKING POSTS IN A BAND FORUM is pretty retarded. might as well argue with the guy in front of you in the taco bell line. lol@pride over the internet (and in general)

    btw whatever happened to kontos, he was like the next big thing before he left machine head (who also, incidentally, began to suck balls the very next album)
     
  10. Ancient Rabid One

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    I CERTAINLY AGREE. I'D RATHER DICUSS METAL AND HAVE SOME FUN AND AVOID THESE LITLE CLICKS.




    CHECK THE LINK I PROVIDED AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.



    IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOES, EITHER.



    I WASN'T ARGUING FOR RESPECT. MAN ARE YOUT'RE THE RETARDED ONE IF THAT'S THE ONLY CONCLUSION YOU CAN COME UP WITH.



    I KNOW, AND WOULD TELL YOU BUT I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL OUT OF EVERYTHING SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE WAVES. :cry:


    IN ANY CASE, I CAME TO DISCUSS METAL AND NOT SOCIALLY INTERACT IN THROUGH THE GUISE OF A METAL BOARD. HAVE FUN PLAYING PATTY CAKES AND STROKING EACH OTHER'S EGOS. INFORMATION ABOUT METAL IS WHAT I'M AFTER AND HAD YOU NOT BEEN SO INCLINED TO SOCIALIZE, YOU'D KNOW WHAT'S UP WITH CHRIS KONTOS. BUT I FEEL GENEROUS : http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=75032

    I'M SURE YOU'LL MISS ME AS MUCH AS I ALREADY MISS YOU. YOU'RE ALL JUST TOO COOL FOR ME WITH ALL THE SOCIALIZING AND LACK OF METAL DISCUSSIONS. LATER...
     
  11. bolivershagnasty

    bolivershagnasty Armed and Dangerous

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    I can't really add anything to this discussion other than(and yes once again)..

    10 , 9 , 8 , 7 , 6..6..6!!!!!:headbang:
     
  12. strik9

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    I think Demonic was/is a solid album. It is probably the weakest of all the later day Testament albums, but still has some awesome tunes like The Burning Times, Hatreds Rise, and John Doe.:headbang:
     
  13. Donnie Darko

    Donnie Darko Destroyer of False Metal

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    I think Demonic is a killer album. Not their best but still awesome in its own way. Testament does not have a bad album
     
  14. oldschoolthrashmetal

    oldschoolthrashmetal Your Thrash god. Really.

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    I rebought it today, since I´ve sold it a decade ago cuz I didn´t like it. I still think it´s far the weakest Testament album, sorry

    (and yeah, thought I buy it again hoping it had grown on me)
     
  15. Testament891

    Testament891 The new Dave

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    I love Demonic.....In this album there are songs as Demonic Refusal,Together as one,Ten Thousand thrones.....that are exceptional for me.....When i listened it for the first time...i was very excited when i felt Chuck 's growl....it's fantastic!!!
     
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    METAL GOD In Metal We Trust

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    I like Demonic...I actually don't listen to Practice What You Preach, this album was too me a sellout, it didn't thrash... A song called the ballad? Yuck!! Just thrash...fuck all that artsey crap...seen the Practice tour in Mexico in '89 w/ ANNIHILATOR but the tour was weak compared to the one before I saw with DEATH ANGEL / VIO-LENCE in San Diego '88. That tour is one of the best ever...
     
  17. Vizeroth

    Vizeroth New Metal Member

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    Personally, I didn't care much for either Demonic or the Gathering, but maybe now there's been enough time that I could go back and listen to them again (thankfully I never got rid of them). I really think the band's sound suffered when Greg Christian left. I was lucky enough to see them play a small gig in San Diego shortly before he left and the songs they were trying out for the next album at that time had me picking up Demonic the second I found it on the shelves (not to mention the amazing album that Low was).

    In my mind Testament survived a hell of a lot of changeover in their lineup over the years, but they really started unravelling during that time period, and it's nice to see the old lineup back together in the last few years (and nice to hear Live in London).
     
  18. Migs

    Migs Friday the 13th addict

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    I think that "demonic" is probably the best Testament record by far. Production, songwriting, vocals , power, aggression and melodies are top quality, the cover artwork is amazing. I really don't know if the band will ever top this one, guys
     
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    They already did in 1999, Its called The Gathering:Smug:
     
  20. bolivershagnasty

    bolivershagnasty Armed and Dangerous

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    And to be topped again in 2008!:Smokin:
     

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