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Discussion in 'Orphaned Land' started by GONE Ridin' Hood, Sep 8, 2006.
Hmmm, sounds great.
Mmmmmmm, beer, ahhhhhhhhhh
Things in the shooting range as you describe happen all the time. The bottom line is that there's nothing more dangerous than 50 girls doing tironut and go to shooting range. Horror for commanders, hazard for fellow rookies.
Sagemet - I don't fucking think so!
I still can't make up my mind about officership... but there's time yet...
Shooting with an M-16 is little fun, but still can lay off your heart, on those occasions of being pissed at people... so are Mag or 0.5, that is definitly something fun... as of Tomat - I had that noise for over a month, no thanks. Tanks is somewhat better, and more beautiful me thinks MLRS is just beautiful... 2 stars flying at the sky, disappearing behind the hills and then you hear "Boom!"... b-e-a-utiful...
had that too at war...:Smokin:
I believe these things happen all the time in the combat units(including the altilery and the armored corps) where you have to do more complicated things like night wet squad(חוליה and class(כתה drills which are reletively more complicated and dangerous than simple shooting range shooting.
I was a class commander and later a sgt. in a basic 02 boot camp...the rookies never do those drills.the hardest thing they have is field(שדאות training and 10 meter night shooting.
I can sefely say that ordering to start shooting while there are soldiers(especially one of the commanders) at the target line is not something that happens often in 02...the soldiers weren't even a manace,that cycle was one of those high motivated soldiers destined for the intelligence corps(if anyone asks...it doesn't exist ) so it was her entire fault...I was lucky the soldiers that had to shoot at the targets where we've been had enough sence not to shoot and halt their weapons. meanwhile I took the soldier and did a double pazatzta(never actually did this before) behind the target line bump.
I had one cycle of girls and it was quite fun actually...and the girls were totally ok except of 2-3 girls who were a mennace but that's not unusual.
also had the urge to go up to one of the tents during Tash Hour open the entrence curtain and ask "is everything ok?" while the girls got undressed(yeah I'm a perv I know) but I didn't(saw enough female nudity during my boot camp and commander's course training which was the first mixed gender course weee!!!)
the "girl problem" as you described it was mainly with the fellow female commanders who were determined to show the male rookies where the vagina pees from(so to speak) with unneccessary cluelty to soldiers that didn't deserve such a harsh attitude and some of the female officers(like that specific one) who liked to give a hard time to male commanders under their juristiction....I called it vulgar display of power since I was very into Pantera back then(still am actually...RIP Dimebag).
they should outlaw giving power to mean bitches...
I never actually fought in a war(only son) but at september 2000 during my commander's course we went to a small outpost(for squad and class wet drills) near the vadi ara road...during our 2 week stay there the inthifada broke out and the arabs from the villages nearby and Um el Fahem totally demolished the road in which we came...I couldn't sleep for these 2 weeks from fear of some arabs getting into the outpost during the night and shoot everyone...aspecially after such a thing happened in that outpost already some years ago.
Off topic! That is so rude
You are so off topıc! Does anyone have anythıng to say that makes sense???
And to Ilan I say: I am soooo goıng to kıck your ass next tıme I,m ın İsrael hehehehehe
ps- sorry for the weırd typıng. ıt ıs a turkısh keyboard
getting a little spanky spanky is a lot better than I imagined our first meeting would be like dominaterix Natalie...
oh and you have to promise me a nude hug or nude in haag or something like that.
I got an exam tomorrow and I've been a little stressed so I get moodswings and start talking shiz...it will go away I promise*puppy eyes*
but seriously now.why are you going to kick my ass.
I do have respect girls and women...I just don't respect mean and cruel people in which case I was talking just about mean cruel bitches.I'm not saying that some of the guys weren't assholes where I served,hell some of them were much worse than those mean bitches.
What do you mean I'm not making sense? Doesn't sexual poo jokes in a war thread make sense to you? I am a 2 year old mind trapped in a 19 year old's body, so that could be it.
I'm pissed now. It's very hard to get around since like a billion streets are closed off since Bush is here. I don't mind that, but if they plan on keeping them closed for that Iranian douchebag (nothing against Iranians, just that crazy dictator), I will be super pissed. There is even going to be a whole rally against him tomorrow. I might go since there will probably be loads of cute college girls, but if there isn't, I will take a tire iron to his head and we will see if he still wants to be nuclear!
Yet you say that I am disrespectful to women.
what is exactly disrespectfull about what I said?
Nude hugs, calling someone a dominatrix, spankings. Granted it may not be oral toilets and golden showers, but it's not like that was so respectful. Not that I really care since I'm a dude and don't get offended by that stuff, besides for the fact that what I've said was much worse.
Natalie said she'd kick my ass so I humourosly turned it into a sexual thing...and called it spanking and dominating...there's nothing disrespectfull about it...it's just a joke.I'm not even into the whole spanking thing.
the nude hug thing is also innocent...nude hugs are cool aspecially with beautiful girls like Natalie...it's not as if I'm objectifying anyone by asking for a nude hug...and besides it's a joke.I have tons of respect for Natalie,I know she's a great person even without actually meeting her.
sexual doesn't automatically mean disrespectfull aspecially when it's clearly a joke...on the other hand oral toilets and golden showers both are really disgusting and demeaning of the person in the pic/video even if it's done willingly and with paying that person to do it.it is by definition objectifying the person just like in hard and even soft porn.
I just remember that time on my friend's class commanders course at a grenade range, when some dude throwed a grenade exactly in the opposite direction - to the pre-cast with the other soldiers... they heard all of a sudden "klik... klik.... klik-klik-klik" and started to run for it. When the grenade detonated, a piece of shrapnel lightly wounded one of the guys, tearing a piece of flesh off his ass :Smokin:
I work in the army also with safety... i get to read so many stupid things that soldiers do that I can't keep up being surprised every time
I can't imagine it happening...the granade throwing motion doesn't allow you to throw the granade backwards...the worst thing that could happen in such case is you dropping the granade inside or close to the throwing post. plus there should be an officer supervising and correcting your every move to prevent such thing from happening.
I know the whole safety protocol business...filled out some protocols about my soldiers and had a few filled out about me(like that time I almost got shot)...some are serious but some are incredibly stupid...
like this one time when I was a commander I came across a protocol about corporal so and so who was at the time my commanding sgt. and it stated that he fell of a plastic chair in the dining room
reason:the soldier wasn't acting responsibly and was swinging in the chair,he slipped and fell down
soldier was rushed to the infirmery and was checked by a doctor.the soldier wasn't injured.
conclusion:soldier shouldn't have swung in his chair.
we had quite a laugh about the whole thing...
I forgot to mention the key info - the exposition: the soldier actually threw the grenade to the direction of the pre-cast, and that's why: if you remember the briefing drill - where the officer and the soldier are to stand during a briefing of throwing grenads. In this case, the officer stood between the soldier and the precast instead between the soldier and the range - the movement is that after the briefing the soldier turns 180 degrees and throws the grenade at the precast -> hense the incident.
Chair swinging = unprofessional behavior of soldier. It is from now and on commanders responsibility to properly brief soldiers and officers concerning the use of chairs and the dangers that they hold.
I had one equally funny - an officer from my unit ran into a boar (happens a lot here up north) and crashed his car (estimated damage - 17,000 NIS).
In the protocol (that appears to be that the officer wrote himself - he's a high rank) he wrote this under the title "mistakes": "Boar's wrong estimation resulting bursting into an unclear road in limited visibility terms".
first of all where does the soldier's sence of judgement come in...I mean hey let's throw a live granade in the direction of the pre-cast full of soldiers and see what happens...
in any case you're supposed to throw a pak-pak first, pick it up and then throw the granade in the same direction.
in that case he had to throw the pak pak into the precast and in that case no one would've been hurt(except maybe for the stupid guy who would try to pick it up and get his fingers broken in result) and the officer would correct the soldier to throw the live granade in the right direction.
Boar's wrong estimation
the Boar will be trialed and demoted to the rank of private...
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i heard that in here there was a similar case to the plastic chair incident... though the chair wasn't plastic, it was wooden and it was broken or something. a soldier fell off it and eventually the chair was punished.
speaking of funny army moments...
when I was in basic training on the 4-day field training(sadaut) our sgt. was standing on a dune and making us run in the sands untill we collapsed in the middle of the night...there was a moment where we all stood and the sgt started his speach...about how bad we behaved and about him being like god to us and about sgt's container never touches the ground(like aron ha brit never touches the ground) and he said If I want to have light...there shall be light and I say let there be light...meanwhile behind the dune were two of the commanders with a 52mm mortar(margema) trying to shoot a light bomb to the sky...they try once, they try twice,they try the third time...the bomb is a dud...and the sgt. sees what happens and says and If I want there to be darkness then there shall be darkness...
In attempt to conclude the grenade issue: the officer briefs both times: when throwing pak-pak and when throwing live. The second time he was standing as I described, and I think there is very little he could do, since the throwing motion of the soldier was quick and accurate .
The rabbanut team has positively identified the boar's identity by dogtag and dental comparison. The boar will be recognized as a victim of terror action and the family will recieve the proper compensation.
Commander's stories are the best... you could sit and tell them for hours... everybody has those
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