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Distorted bass (how?)

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by Ermz, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. aramism

    aramism Member

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    yeah man it is a really nice head. never worked with an svt pro but the MB is really good. used it on anything from jazz with a lot of compliments to metal to a korn cover.
     
  2. ahjteam

    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    My speciality.

    Bass > Tuner > DI-box > Pedals > Amp > Cab > SM57

    DI: highpass at 80hz (believe me or not, it just works!), compress the hell out of it (6:1, 10-15dB gain reduction, makeup 10dB), cut mud and highs
    SM57: highpass at 200-300hz, cut mud, boost clarity
     
  3. Metaltastic

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    DI box before pedals and amp...? Wouldn't that hit the amp with too low an impedance signal? The only way I've heard of that working is with someone having a reamp box at the other end right before the amp to get the signal back to high-Z.
     
  4. beyond dead

    beyond dead heavy metal dad \m/

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    usually di`s have a parallel output that sends the signal unaffected
     
  5. ahjteam

    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    Nope.
     
  6. greyskull

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    not if you use the 'thru'
     
  7. Ermz

    Ermz ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    Cool. So it seems splitting is the way to go generally.

    Any REALLY good bass dist plug-ins out there?

    I've tried Trash, PSA-1, Guitar Suite, Guitar Rig, Revalver etc. but none of them gave me a meaty and convincing growl.
     
  8. smy1

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    Maybe it's your bass guitar that is lacking?
     
  9. ahjteam

    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    I have passive pups on my bass, but after I boiled my strings, the sound got a lot better with distortion, so I suggest exchanging new strings to the bass if the distortion sounds bad. I am using Big Muff Pi and Sansamp Bass Driver DI (both hardware).
     
  10. colonel kurtz

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    i don't have it myself, but i saw a buddy of mine a few months back get a fucking sick bass tone with the SSL e-channel + UAD nigel
     
  11. Jaymz

    Jaymz Stymphalian Productions

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    Trash has worked the best for me out of all the other plugins ive tried.
     
  12. greyskull

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    i use sansamp(plug in)
     
  13. Ermz

    Ermz ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    Well I don't actually own a bass. I've recorded a wide variety, through many different chains, some of them quite excellent, others not so much.

    None of the processing I've used has ever really given me the type of 'real amp' growl I've been after. izotope trash has actually been quite bad, and I'm wondering what kind of settings you guys are using to get it working for you...
     
  14. joeymusicguy

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    am i the only person who hates the way a sansamp sounds?

    yuck
     
  15. colonel kurtz

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    yea...i tried out trash after hearing all sorts of good stuff about it, but its usefulness equaled its name - at least for me

    what i've been doing lately is DI'ing bass through a hard-driven tube pre to get a little grit in the signal...then into ampeg SVT, PSP vintagewarmer, and last i slap an ampeg cab impulse on there
     
  16. Seizure.

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    Please don't use any plug ins for distorting bass hahaha! The sansamp plugin is damn cool for a bit of grit but throwing a real dist pedal infront of an amp/sansamp or distorting the bass itself is still unmatched hehehe

    And just buy a shitload of pedals and see which works on which project!

    For example, for my own band i use a Coron 15 and odb3 combo into a sansamp.
    For some extreme grind/powerviolence/trashy bands i use the ds-1/tubescreamer.
    And a Fuzz can be damn delicous on some projects aswell!

    Passive pickups (bartolinni's are great!) work best with distortion imo.

    I think the dist on the decapitated song is just a ampeg getting hit by a hot emg signal hehe, that sound is still clean in my book ;)
     
  17. andbassforall

    andbassforall New Metal Member

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    Here's my two bits on live distortion and having some control over it and still being "the bass". I don't do this all gigs, but some bands call for it. There's two set up's. One set up is a distortion pedal with "Blend". I'm not even talking about the SansAmp bass driver. I'm talking real overdrive. The blend is so you can keep a good amount of clean under it and you can still have that good solid low end still. What I usually do is take a SansAmp bass driver through whatever pedals I use otherwise (chorus etc) and then into an Morley A/B/Y box. I send the Bass driver in to "A". I use the parallel out of the Bass Driver and put it into a SansAmp GT2. I take the GT2 and send it into the "B" of the Morley box. So this way I keep my main tone the BassDriver, or sometimes I just use it as a splitter box and keep it off, and then adjust the level of the GT2 to where I want it. The goal is to have a solid bass sound still under the dirt. I don't use too much dirt as far as overdrive, I like just a bit of grit and grind. Some people do a pretty good Lemmy impression with their rigs though.
    Good Luck!
     
  18. TheDude

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    I don't get it. I put an overdrive pedal in front of the amp, SD-1, TS808, pretty much whatever, but those are really good. Then add some low on the amp if necessary, but with a mic on it, it's so much bass that it's more than enough even though it's distorted. Seems like a lot of unnecessary work to get similar result.
     
  19. beyond dead

    beyond dead heavy metal dad \m/

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    hi pass the speaker track, and blend with di that has been low passed. micing up a speaker is good for mid grind but does not give the tight low end needed . hope this helps
     
  20. TheDude

    TheDude Jocke Skog

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    I just said the opposite. ;)
     

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