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Dream Theater

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by The Ozzman, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. Woolie Wool

    Woolie Wool Ia Cthulhu fhtagn

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    There can be art in a performance, or appreciation of being in the presence of the musicians and hearing the music you like in the most direct way possible. If live music is merely entertainment, then you may as well attend a pop concert.
     
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    you guys are thinking way to much into this
     
  3. Vegard Pompey

    Vegard Pompey ALLY TO GOOD, NIGHTMARE TO YOU

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    Good music is both entertainment and art.
     
  4. Woolie Wool

    Woolie Wool Ia Cthulhu fhtagn

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    Too many people don't think about music enough.
     
  5. Black Friday

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    QFMFT. There wouldn't be so many shitty bands that imitate each other if people actually thought about what's good music.
     
  6. The Ozzman

    The Ozzman Melted by feels

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    What's good is subjective though
     
  7. Black Friday

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    But actually thinking about it brings things into clarity, and tends to bring appreciation for deeper things.
     
  8. The Ozzman

    The Ozzman Melted by feels

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    Well, yeah. Talking about it helps you understand it better, but there's no definitive answer on what is good music since it all differs from person to person
     
  9. ShredHeadJHJ

    ShredHeadJHJ oh noes itz a opinionn

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    I think that just about every single thing that Dream Theater has ever done is VERY memorable, yet TECHNICAL. This is the sign of a truly great band. They are perfectionists, especially live. I just wish more people would give "Awake" a few good spins on a good stereo system before bashing them & resorting to the "day masterbate s0 much i cant stand et" kind of false claims.

    I'm a musician & I pay close attention to detail of the instruments in music. I think that "6DoIT" & "Octavarium" were their weakest outings, but "Train of Thought" is the only album they were ever guilty of 'masturbating' on to a noticeable degree.
     
  10. ShredHeadJHJ

    ShredHeadJHJ oh noes itz a opinionn

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    You should get "Awake". You seem to be all over the spectrum with your tastes. I'm sure you will really like this one. "ToT" is nowhere near as good as their early stuff.

    You obviously haven't heard too awful much of their stuff. Dream Theater have some more feeble minded short hook laden songs too. Not every song is 10 minutes long. I don't know how ANYONE except Pop/Rap fans could dislike a band because their songs are longer than 4 minutes though.
     
  11. Vegard Pompey

    Vegard Pompey ALLY TO GOOD, NIGHTMARE TO YOU

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    I don't like ToT. I am a Dream Theater fan, and I like most of their stuff, but ToT has more annoying wankery than any of the other albums, in my opinion.
     
  12. Woolie Wool

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    Not only are there more solos in Train of Thought but they are also the worst solos Dream Theater have ever recorded. Usually, even in their most self-indulgent moments, Dream Theater's music is intricately planned and flawlessly executed--these guys know their shit and know what they're doing. With Train of Thought, I think they weren't really on top of things all the time, because they wrote the whole fucking album in two weeks. Why would you spend only two weeks writing an album?
     
  13. Vitor

    Vitor Unconventional [Listener]

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    and he screams more than sings the old songs. I think that's the reason of the medley in their shows.

    i comprehends it, but as a technical singer, he should can do it with more elegance. just observe Dio and Gillan and confirm what i'm talking about.
     
  14. Woolie Wool

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    I don't like Ian Gillan as much at all, and Dio is in considerably worse shape than LaBrie is (probably because he's 65 instead of 45).
     
  15. The Butt

    The Butt Unholy gas, flares from my ass

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    I have two of their albums, Train of Thought and Octavarium. Only a couple of songs on the latter really struck me as memorable, and that's being generous.

    Also, I love long songs. Albums like And Justice For All, and Nagelfar's Virus West demonstrate this quite well.

    It's just that in general, Dream Theater is too wanky and all-over-the-place for me.
     
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    Oh yes! Judge a band by their two worst albums, a grand idea! Buy Images And Words.
     
  17. The Ozzman

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    Yeah, Octavarium is fucking awful. Train of Thought is good though. I have no idea why that album gets so much hate.

    I recommend I&W to anyone who is starting to get into DT though, just to be safe.
     
  18. The Butt

    The Butt Unholy gas, flares from my ass

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    Because I obviously know that those are the bands two worst albums. :rolleyes:

    I'll check out I&W. But if it fails, I don't think I'm going to keep giving the band chances like that.
     
  19. King Richard

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    Yeah, there's definitely no doubt that Images and Words is their best album.
     
  20. Vegard Pompey

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    Why does everyone hate Octavarium? It'd be nice if someone could explain what's so bad about that album... I think it's quite awesome.
     

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