They for sure were the surprise of the first Paganfest and were amazing! However, like others have said once those brothers left they just don't have that "it" factor anymore. The new album sucks too. I'm all for experimentation and such, but they need to realize who their fans are -- metal fans. I would've had no problems with them doing the occasional unplugged song but with them having a full album of stuff like that is just a mistake and so it feels more like a world album than anything else.