BWN, I don't believe you, but I see no need to continue with the ban as you have said your piece and the area remains grey. I don't figure I'm going to get any Christmas cards from you, but I have learned a lesson in how to handle things. I apologize for the way it was handled, but not for my rationale. Besides, the only thing a ban is going to do in the specific situation is going to make Arch blow more smoke out his ass. Glenn H.