What I ment to point out is, that if you look at the statistic that way then "more guns = more crime" isn't valid, at least by definition. Cause the sheer number of guns isn't the only factor contributing to gun relating crimes, as others pointed out already. That's why that statistic is faulty to look at that way. Personally I don't have anything against guns, I think they are pretty interesting, but not interesting enough for me to make an hobby out of it. Let "sane" people own guns if they want, but annoy the fuck out of them with security measures. Aka mandatory controlling, making sure that the guns are locked up in a secure gun safe with a digit lock, so only the owner has access to it, mandatory hours/year at the shooting range etc.. And for people being so scared of being robbed at home: If you're that worried about it then getting a good solid secure door and even window bars or security windows is a far saver idea than having a gun at home. That "tyranny government" argument also gives me a nice chuckle..as if you could defend yourself with a handgun/rifle against a tank.