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Discussion in 'LORD' started by Lord Tim, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. fire_angel

    fire_angel Timboooooo

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    I just joined up to my first gym a few days ago and i'm really loving the atmosphere in there. I typically run for about 30 minutes in a rotation loop of 6 days a week, but i was finding that the uneven terrain outside (not to mention huge bloody hills) was just tiring me far too much. So now i just use the running belt in the gym, and i find i can go much faster, and for much longer. Definitely worth the $190 for 3 months. While i initially joined to start a weight lifting regime, i'm putting that off till i can get an assessment, otherwise i'd have no idea what i was doing, or whether i was just runing my arms with stupid reps.

    But yeah, joining the gym was one of the smartest things i've done in recent times. The motivation to work is extrodinary, and every one there looks like they are having a blast - even if i do look flabby and soft compared to them all, but hey, we all start somewhere.

    Any suggested food diets to follow when starting a full-time cardio/resistance training regime? I'd assume it's going to be lots of salads and slabs of steak?
     
  2. Rick

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    Depends how many calories you are burning a day, and if you want to take things into consideration: Like keeping muscle mass, or losing weight, or getting endurance up. Just as long as you don't just jump into that full routine as well. Generally it's meant to follow a simple rule: If you burn off more calories than you intake, you should lose weight and vice versa depending on metabolism. I suggest you do weights as well, if only to gain some tone and to create some lean muscle.
     
  3. Wenda

    Wenda Lady LORD

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    Are you looking to get to that weight & body fat range for competing, or is it just a personal goal? :)

    Yes, continue the walking until it's no longer challenging. Include the running but do be careful of your shin splints, they can be really sucky if they're aggravated. The boxing should do more for your cardio until you're able to run properly again, because it sounded like you were really hammering your boxing fitness and you'll get that back quickly.

    Whereabouts are you doing your weights, did you have a set at home or have you restarted at the gym (sorry, I don't remember whether you had home stuff :p)? I don't know what kind of weights workouts you're doing, but if it were me I'd just start on a full-body workout without bothering to split it into back days or chest days or leg days and all that. Because you were getting pretty advanced, it shouldn't be too long before that gets easy and you can get started on the fancy shit again. It's good that you're alternating weights / non-weights days as well, that's sensible.

    I'd say do what you're doing for no more than four weeks. After that, it should be getting pretty simple again and you can start gradually introducing more complicated weights exercises. Don't rush the running though, take as long as you need to build that up.

    Does that help? I mostly just agreed with you :p
     
  4. Winmar

    Winmar Pillock of society

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    Have running shoes been discussed in this thread? If so, I'll go have a look rather than covering old ground. If not, would people recommend I get Asics, like a couple of my friends have?
     
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    I can't speak highly enough of Asics. I dunno if anyone's seen that Asics ad at the moment, I think it's done by Footlocker? A woman walks in to the shop with bare feet and says "I want a pair of running shoes that feel like this." Well, it's true. I bought a new pair of Asics Gel-Kayanos for running, and expected to get quite a few blisters until the shoes were broken in. I was wrong - not a single blister. The cushioning is brilliant, they have anti-pronation blocks to support your ankles (important when you have dumb ankles, like me), and they fit like a glove. I'm on my third pair now. After they wear out too much for running in, they last for years as ordinary bumming around shoes.

    You pay a bit for them, about $250 from memory, but in my mind they're absolutely worth it. That goes for any shoes, really. If you don't shell out and hurt your feet because you've got shit shoes, things can really go pear shaped because foot injuries tend to domino up your body - bad feet make bad ankles, which make bad knees, which make bad hips, which make bad backs etc.

    This is my personal experience so I can't say for certain that they'll suit you, but I'd definitely give them a look in. Footlocker is a good bet if you're not sure. They have that footprint assessor which is actually a really good idea. It'll tell you exactly what sort of shoe you need and what to buy :)
     
  6. Winmar

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    Excellent, thanks for that. :) I've seen the Kayanos; a mate has (and recommended) some, and the previous year's model always goes for a bit less. If I didn't have the dosh for them, would another Asics model at around the $150 mark still do the trick?

    I'll have a look at Footlocker and perhaps the Athlete's Foot as well, as I hear they've got a sale starting on Boxing Day.
     
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    Yes, they'd probably do the trick, depending on if you've got any gait issues. Gel-Kayanos are like, the top of the range shoe; the feature that interests me is they have the best pronation block. I have huge gait problems when I'm running, with fallen arches and weak pronating ankles and heel spurs and all that shit, so the Kayano pronation block is what I need. I have a pair of their lesser shoes somewhere which I bought for everyday use, and they were only $150 or so. If you don't have the problems that I do, they would be fine to run in :)
     
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    Yeah, the body fat concerns both.. I need to lose some personally, and at the same time make way for muscle mass to take it's place so at my weight limit i'll have the most leverage, power, strength etc possible. I'm thinking about seeing a nutritionist, becuase i eat well but i don't really know fuck all about what does what, aside from the basics about protiens and carbs etc.

    Yeah i've been training at home for the time being. I do everything on Dumbells (they are a better bench press becuase of the awesome use they make of ur stabilizers obviously) and you don't need as much weight per arm on a dumbell bench press than what you do with a barbell. I've just gotta be careful becuase i can push myself too hard. I've done a few sessions of weights and now i'm back to sort of simple split days. It's funny how much weight you lose in a period of about 4 months of sickness and not training hard, i was almost 85 kilos at one stage (from 60) now i'm 73. Ideally i'd want to be about 75 with a BFP of like 8.

    Also recommend Asics. Awesome shoes. Expensive but worth the money. I have like a 300$ pair (i think) of Gel Nimbus' that i bought about a yr ago and they are still kicking. They are designed for a lot of running and activity. You are best going to the Athletes Foot, becuase they fully endorse Asics.
     
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    Thanks for the recommendation also, Rick. I went down to The Athlete's Foot in Hobart the other day and they tested out my feet. I have high arches (they didn't touch the board at all when I walked over it), so they said I needed something with a bit of support in that area. She gave me the Kayanos to try on, along with the Brooks equivalent. I ended up going with the former, on sale for $199. So far, so good. :)
     
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    That's cool mate, now i just need a new pair for myself!
     
  11. Winmar

    Winmar Pillock of society

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    Does anyone here get sore knees as a result of running?
     
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    I do. So I don't run. Apart from on an elliptical trainer.
     
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    outrageous METAL MAIDEN

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    In the past few weeks I've started to realise that I may just be Lactose Intolerant...
    Lactose was my main food group hahaha!
    It's been so damn hard to avoid picking up a piece of cheese or putting milk my coffee, and I'm sick of reading food labels!
    Anyone else suffer from it..any tips either?
     
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    Jet City Woman The Drumming Monkey

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    Are you sure it's Lactose? What are your symptoms?

    If you are certain that it is Lactose you are in luck, you can buy Lactose free milk and most cheeses contain little or no lactose.
    Milk is available in the Longlife Milk isle, it may not taste exactly the same as regular milk, but it's an alternative and better than nothing.
    Most cheeses don't have any lactose, I'm pretty sure parmasen and most hard cheeses are completely lactose free. I had a whole heap of information on lactose intolerance, if I find any I'll PM you.

    For the meantime, make sure you are certain it's lactose- you don't want to be avoiding anything you don't have to.
     
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    Rick Senior User

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    Yeah, i would suggest seeing a specialist before you come to any conclusions.
     
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    I am nearly positive it is Lactose because I've had a few episodes of this before.
    Also, my boyfriend is studying to become a doctor, so has many med books...my symptoms match up perfect.
    The past week I've cut out the lactose that I've realised I'm eating (there is some in packet chips etc that I didn't know) and I've been feeling fine. This started about 12 days ago, first few days I didn't think about it, then ate a whole cheese pizza and felt absolutely horrid.
    What kind of test can a specialist do anyway?
    That info would be awesome if you can find it!!
     
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    There is a specific test for lactose interolance I am pretty sure

    They make you take something, and there is a specific gas that you breathe out a larger percantage of if your lactose intolerant. So they measure your breathe 15 mins later or so and its pretty conclusive.

    I also agree you should see a specialist, it could be something more serious and you want to be 100% sure.
     
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    Agreed with Falkor, unfortunately your boyfriends study books don't match the expertise of an actual doctor; so i'd really suggest seeing one.
     
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    Has anyone tried wearing those weights you can wear around your wrists when walking/running?
     
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    The ones designed for increased power walking? You're probably better off just using traditional dumbbells, increase a bit of grip strength while you're at it.
     

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