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Great sounding records withOUT samples

Discussion in 'Andy Sneap' started by Brooks, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. TheIllicitOne

    TheIllicitOne Ik ben lekker...

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    I second this nomination. The production on this album is great as is the songwriting. If you haven't heard it go pick it up. I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it.
     
  2. The Shrink

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  3. Andy Sneap

    Andy Sneap Metal Guru

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    see you guys are guessing, painkiller sounds triggered to me and does Perfect Circle even, but who cares?
     
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    How about Dream Theater?
     
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    Good drummers dont need triggers :p
     
  6. 462studio

    462studio 462 Studio

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    I agree. Good drum sounds are good drum sounds regardless. It doesn't much matter to me if there are samples in the mix or not. I think a hotter topic would be albums with samples that still sound completely awful, there seems to be plenty of that.
     
  7. cobhc

    cobhc Amiga Enthusiast

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    Or albums that sound blatantly sampled, and completely unrealistic.
     
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    462studio 462 Studio

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    Even that is not necessarily an issue for me. Unrealistic can be awesome if it fits the material well.
     
  9. Andy Sneap

    Andy Sneap Metal Guru

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    good drummers don't need triggers eh, I'll be sure to pass those comments on.
     
  10. Chryst Krispies

    Chryst Krispies Vanilla Gorilla

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    I think triggers are the best thing since sliced bread....

    Also
    Meaning just because "blank" sounds not like a compresed to fuck sample that you would use for a shitty bedroom cover that it "HAS" to be a real drum set. this is not the case , especially with the older stufff people are mentioning. Also I'd reckon a good drum sound is a good drum sound that's the end of the story really how you get there doesn't really matter.
     
  11. Kevin Kitchel

    Kevin Kitchel Junior Muppet

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    Unruh - Setting Fire to Sinking Ships
     
  12. Metaltastic

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    AKA anything recent with Nick Barker!
     
  13. Ronnie_Rocker

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    hehe. it was a joke :) correct me if im wrong, but the gathering doesnt sound triggered at all, and it sounds awesome!
     
  14. JeffTD

    JeffTD Senhor Testiculo

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    The kick was triggered, snare slightly IIRC, and toms 100% triggered.
     
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    theblackmoon Casa Negra

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    Steve Albini gets the best drum sounds IMO.

    You may use sine wave and/or pink or white noise with gate side-chains on drums, not samples but reinforce nonetheless. So if you guys can´t even agree on wich album used samples or not does it even matter? Super-clicky kicks?! You can make that acoustically, platic beater, loose skin, pad, D112 pointed at the beater, pretty close. Unless the samples were obviously missused it´s almost impossible to guess.

    Artistic decisions are never wrong.
     
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    oh shit. didnt realize that. Good trigging then. I use alot of trigging on my mixes.
     
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    RonSCHC big floppy donkey dick

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    I gotta say Unearth's III: In the eyes of fire cause it's so blasting and punchy even the drums are all natural.
     
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    I think the songs are cool but the production is complete trash. I'd take the completely fake sounding drums of TOS over this anyday.
     
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    I wouldn't say it's trash, but I was definitely a little bit disappointed in it when I first heard it.
     
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    Agree with you. Metal is not his cup of tea, definetely. But I was thinking pure, un-sampled acoustic drums. Search around for his discography, Wikipedia has a bit, his drums sounds on most pop/rock albums he did are amazing, again, this is my opinion.

    In Metal I really like Colin Richardson drum sounds. Andy Sneap makes the ultimate metal snare IMO. Really awesome.
     

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