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Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by Ermz, Dec 25, 2002.

  1. Ermz

    Ermz ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    Alright I've always had a problem with growling... I can never seem to do it above like whisper-volume... when you growl, do you use your actual voice?? like vocal chords?? What do you need to strain to do it, how do you do it etc.??? I've just had a problem with this for a while and any advice would be helpful.
     
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    I cant do it either :mad:
     
  3. Ibsen

    Ibsen Bullshit Artist

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    Keep practicing. I had to practice for about a year before I could get it right.
     
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    It's hard to practice when you don't know if you're even doing it right. My "growl" sounds more like a demonic voice from one of the Evil Dead deadites than anything with power behind it. I can work on something like Angel Gossow but nothing close to Mike's growl.
     
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    Protected Witness Magickal Theatre 33

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    It sounds kind of obvious, but you just scream. Scream with a low tone (or higher depending on what you want to sound like...), and there you go. Your throat will hurt like hell for awhile until you get used to it, so be careful. After awhile, you won't have to scream to do it, and your throat will be conditioned to be able to take that kind of abuse for a much longer amount of time.

    (Screaming/growling is said to be about the worst thing possible to do to your singing voice, so big props to singers like Mr. Akerfeldt who can consistently combine the two styles!!!)
     
  6. elm lateral

    elm lateral Starlight Etherial Spirit

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    It's not really about screaming unless u want pitch n shit.

    I sound like fucking low, exactly how cynical bastard says he sounds :)

    I can do demon of the fall orright :D.

    You need to use your diaphragm to change pitch, and shit u need to use it to do it fullstop, ull fuck your vocal cords up if u use your throat, it comes from the gut.


    Took me like a week to get the hang of, it's superbly fun :)
     
  7. Ermz

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    The way Mike growls doesn't sound like it hurts... I mean the man has consitently growled then gone back to singing and his voice is fine, I really doubt he uses his vocal chords to any great extent while growling, or else they'd be fucked over from years of abuse.
     
  8. joker (Ravaged)

    joker (Ravaged) Ravaged Soul

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    I can change from growl to clean in a jiffy
    but i have never experienced getting hurt in my throat or anything.

    try my bands songs:
    http://www.mp3.com/ravaged
     
  9. Windom Pearl

    Windom Pearl HUGGY!!!!

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    He uses his false vocal chords.
     
  10. NAD

    NAD What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse

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    There's a thread on this in the general music discussion forum (or maybe the musician's forum), and it's really good, talks about different techniques to keep your throat from getting sore. I growl pretty well, like a higher-register Chris Barnes (not nearly as good, mind you ;) ) and my throat doesn't get too sore. I've never growled for longer than 10 minutes though. :)
     
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    the stone's hinge Professional Do-Gooder

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    when i growl, i try and keep my throat as open as possible; don't strain, or you'll damage yourself. You just have to start out like you're groaning, then build up. i can get as low and cool as akerfeldt, but i usually just do the high rasps like garm on aspera hiems symfonia. you just have to practice.
     
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    Growl from your gut if that makes any sense. Won't strain your throat as much and it will sound evil as hell.
     
  13. SculptedCold

    SculptedCold -scented manbeef-

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    I stab myself in the stomach and put my fingers down my throat.
     
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    and all that smoking and drinking?...still such an amazing voice!
     
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    I can do it for a short while, then it makes my throat hurt. I probably use my vocal chords too much.
     
  16. seventi

    seventi Viva Lonliness!

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    WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHGAHGHHGHGA!!!!!!

    How did that sound?
     
  17. DEEK

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    i can do it pretty well.
     
  18. poptartofdeath

    poptartofdeath Urethra or Mine?

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    Get one of the live vids of Opeth, he doesn't growl from the throat, it's a more air-y or raspy growl. The real low stuff is really only on the albums, where there's a chance to redo everything, do different takes, mess with effects. Uses lotsa reverb.
     
  19. Rusty

    Rusty A-HAHAHA!

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    This is what I completely fail to understand - I just don't get how to growl from the gut... :confused: is there ANY chance of a better/fuller/more detailed explanation??
     
  20. Brotherelf

    Brotherelf Nothing Left to Mutilate

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    In martial arts, sometimes you'll here of a spot called the "Hara"
    located about 2 inches below the belly-button, I've read that when you "Yell" for power or chi, it should be done from there.
    I know it all sounds funny, but i think its the same thing with "Growling." You can get a deeper, bellow, rather than a scratchy sound that makes your throat hurt. So, try to focus on your "hara" :lol: that's how you can use your gut.
    I'm by no means an expert singer or anything, but that works for me (not that i really have a place to yell or growl loud, so i dont do it) but hope this helps.
     

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