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How do you believe Alexi writes his solos?

Discussion in 'Children Of Bodom' started by chainek, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. chainek

    chainek Nails or Flippers..?

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    Just curious as I'm to a solo in a song I've been writing myself and can't seem to get it all going.

    Does he record a simple rhythm and play over it until he gets some ideas then works on them? Does he write them on their own then add the rhythm later?

    I'm just looking for some ideas.

    Thanks.
     
  2. CadalMord

    CadalMord guerrilla

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    I have no clue about it but if I had to guess I'd say he just improvises a solo and then tries to remember it. =)
     
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    Judging from the video I got of them jamming on "Rebel Yell," looks like he improvises until he plays something he likes and then sticks with that.
     
  4. chainek

    chainek Nails or Flippers..?

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    Bah, I'm hopeless then! :D


    Yeah, I remember watching that. But I'm wondering if he improvised just because of what song it was?

    From seeing tabs of various original songs it almost seems like he would have to be throwing in pre-written licks specifically inspired from some classical music. Probably even phrases and progressions. How anybody could actually improvise what he does seems kind of uhh.. imposible from my perspective. :D :worship:

    Yeah, I'm hopeless. hehehe
     
  5. RockBodom

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    he writes them on the keyboard with Janne i believe...read in an interview somewhere..
     
  6. DarkBodom

    DarkBodom Day Of Darkness

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    It helps to know what key the song and the rhythm part that is going under the solo are in.
     
  7. chainek

    chainek Nails or Flippers..?

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    Yeah, it's in the key of D.


    ugh, this headache is making me feel like I'm going to throw up. I need a break.
     
  8. -ALieN-

    -ALieN- Velvet Kevorkian

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    the solos he puts in makes cover songs a hell of a lot better in my opinion.. i completely enjoy the CoB version of Aces High more than the original and the solos he stuck into that song in place of the original ones just make it so kickass.
     
  9. gkelter

    gkelter Trashed, Lost & Strungout

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    He just improvised the solo in the Rebel Yell video thing because it's fucking Rebel Yell, any solo would sound good in that song as long as it stays in key. I improvise a new fucking solo every time I play that song. The way I write solos is.. I kinda.. hear the next part in my head and then figure out how to play it, and I just move it along like that. It makes sense to me.. lol i dunno.
     
  10. stoned&drunk

    stoned&drunk tuopin henki

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    chainek Nails or Flippers..?

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    I know what you mean. You can play any kind of random shit over Rebel Yell you want.

    It's just all my solos have been improvised up to this point. I want to try something with a little structure for once. hehe This song I'm working on is my best so far too. I don't want to kill it with a lame ass solo. I don't want to be like so many guitar players I know that just improvise bullshit out of there ass and call it a solo. I want to -WRITE- a solo for once. I just have no idea how to go about doing it.

    But I suppose any amount of whining about it on here is going to help. :D

    Back to the guitar. :Spin:
     
  12. Kirurgisti

    Kirurgisti Perkeleen kätyri

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    I mainly write melodies and riffs, but I have written some slow melodic solos (since I'm not a fast player :cry: ) and I think you should first come up with one or two good-sounding melodies before you start making up a solo. Otherwise it just goes to that fast non-melodic picking that doesn't have any melody and is very repeatitive (like CoB solos often do). Then just create a solo that bases on these melodies. I'm not that good at making solos, but maybe after a few years when I hopefully know scales and I am a better player I can give you some better tips :)
     
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    stoned&drunk tuopin henki

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    chainek Nails or Flippers..?

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    I can't see it either. The font didn't get changed to blue did it? :confused:
     
  15. Missiles

    Missiles Confusing avatar! :O

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    Stoned&Drunk and his mighty invisible posts come back! :D

    I don't know why either, try to contact with the moderator, or the boss of this forum. :p
     
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    stoned&drunk tuopin henki

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    imo he does as do every one :] gets the rythm first and then does the solo, plays a couple of them, or maybe he has an idea before?, choosing the best one and records it :p
     
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    well i dont think they're improvised! they're to well structured! at least hatebreeder / Follow the reaper kind of solos
     
  19. gkelter

    gkelter Trashed, Lost & Strungout

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    Here's the thing. Alexi can improvise something that is well structured. He's been playing guitar for 15 years. He's ran through enough fucking licks and chops to know what the next thing he plays is gonna sound like.
     
  20. Silver Incubus

    Silver Incubus Dead Hands Justin

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    The best advice I would give to writing solos is that if you want to actually write one, just break it down into sections based on the rhythm underneath and just putting melodic parts and keeping notes to the 3rds 4ths 5ths or 8ths to the notes underneath when you bend or hold a note and then shred the scale, any version of key(natural, harmonic or any other), or make a Slayer style solo that is really chromatic to get to the slower parts, or sweep. Just remember that even while shredding, it helps to put rhythm into that. Most of the time, Alexi just does scales in an interesting way by modifiying a pattern in the scale to accomplish the sound that he wants.

    I would say that you should listen and play over top of the Rhythm repeatedly and slowly work out the key notes and sounds and then start adding the fast parts inbetween those.

    A good example of an almost formulaic way of writing solos is any of Chuck's solos from Death, there is a slow part then shreding then slow then shread.

    Bottom line is that Solos are just a bunch of licks put together, played slow or fast.
     

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