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Iconoclast Plot

Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by mooselander, Jun 19, 2011.

  1. mooselander

    mooselander New Metal Member

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    Hey, has anyone figured out the narrative plot of the new album? It's hard to decypher from the lyrics, which are so general. However, the song Prometheus has me picturing a massive new monstrosity to unleash in the...war....if that's what's going on. Anyone else have any idea?
     
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    I don't think there is any. ;)

    They did say that it's not a concept album having a plot/story line (like V) or anything like that, just a particular "theme" and sound.
     
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    Hmm, does that mean that virtually every song is a repeat of "Fuck yeah! I am strong! Fuck no! I've lost my soul!"? I pictured Electric Messiah/Prometheus as a major development for the robotic forces. If nothing else, the lyrics are so ambiguous and broad you can probably interpret it in anyway you want.

    Does anyone else have any other good interpretations?
     
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    Fuck yeah! I am Strong! Metalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll :lol:

    You could probably montage together a nice music video for this album.
     
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    All metal albums are concept albums...about dick cheese and beer...
     
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    The sims
     
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    I definitely think that Prometheus is a Frankenstein-ish tale of a scientist who creates a half-human, half-robotic monstrosity. The lyrics are obviously from this creature's point of view, and how it first realizes that it's alive. While I think that the lyrics on this album are generally pretty sub-par, this song is a definite exception.
     
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    Children of a Faceless God is about Anonymous and Bastards of the Machine is about playing WoW
     
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    What kind of beer? Mmmm, beer.
     
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    for serious?:err:
     
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    Yeah, the lords of chaos is about how the robots own the ground and humans are living in giant airships that circle the cities looking for survivors.
     
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    Just listen to the lyrics, no doubt about it. Electric Messiah is about facebook, and Light Up the Night is about youtube. To be more specific, it's about using the two websites at night.
     
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    This is really interesting...

    But I must be honest, in a quick view of the lyrics/songs you have mentioned, I only see a "clear" relation between "Bastards" and WoW. Could you be more specific on the others?

    I like your idea, sounds more SX than "Dehumanized" being about a raging guy who is turned into a machine by another machine(s) :(
     
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    I think "Bastards of the Machine" is about a generic virtual reality/Matrix like universe.

    I'm really struggling to figure out Electric Messiah. I want to imagine that the robots have found some sort of electric religion, but I could see some sort of computer addiction.
     
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    LMAO. Post of the week.
     
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    Allen said it'd be like Dark Side of the Moon, where there wouldn't be one beginning-middle-end story (like Paradise Lost) but that it would be a collection of songs that all share the basic themes of sensory overload, human devolution, technological surperiority, etc.
     
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    I'd love to contribute to this thread, but when I downloaded the MP3 files this morning, I asked myself: Where's the digital booklet?
     
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    I hear Iconoclast (song) as being told from the viewpoint of humans in the middle of a giant robot war. In contrast, Reign In Madness is from the machines' perspective at the end of the war, and it is obvious that they have won. Humans are either dead or being converted into machines.

    Reminds me of that "Robots" song by Flight of the Conchords. I'm sure that MJR (and whoever else wrote the lyrics) doesn't want it to be taken so literally, but more as mankind depending so much on machines that they eventually become them. Or maybe they really are singing about giant war hammers crushing everyone's skulls, who knows...

    Dehumanized could easily have a similar theme to Prometheus (which I literally think is about a Frankenstein-like tale), but it is more likely about the lack of conversation and face-to-face interaction that technology has brought with it. For example, when two strangers walk into an elevator, do they say "hello" or "how are you today?" Nope, they nervously check their cell phones to appear busy because they don't know what to say or how to act, or simply don't care. This is especially common with younger people, since this technology is something they've been used to for most of their lives. I believe this is the dehumanizing that the song refers to.

    Bastards could easily be about any of those massive online multiplayer games where people create alternate personalities for themselves (not specifically WoW). The lyrics in this one are pretty obvious.

    I have no idea what Children is about. What do you guys mean by "anonymous?"

    When All Is Lost is pretty easy to decipher. It seems to be from the perspective of someone who is a bit older and doesn't understand how people can be so reliant on technology. He seems to be able to foresee that technology will eventually fail them, and hopes they will understand his perspective. You know, learn to not rely on it as much, or let it consume you.

    Electric Messiah could easily be about Facebook (or any social networking site), and Light Up the Night could also be about YouTube. I'm sure MJR despises YouTube; just a feeling.

    I suppose it's possible that Prometheus could be about video games, but not the same type as sung about in Bastards. Specifically, the more violent games that young kids may get desensitized by playing. We all know immature teenagers who will act all badass in real life because they shot someone in the face in Call of Duty or something. I remember a while ago when some kid in a rough neighborhood got in a fight and leaped into Scorpion's pose from Mortal Kombat. It ended about as well as could have been expected. That's just a less literal take on the lyrics, as opposed to "mad scientist creates cyborg monster."
     
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