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Discussion in 'Dark Tranquillity' started by Caotico, Jul 20, 2011.
And about time it was you made a video yourself . Thank you.
On initial viewing I absolutely loved it, the only thing that sometimes bothered me a bit was the sudden change between sceneries. The whole video didn't seem to me like one seamless piece, but that could be me not being able to completely connect the video with the song in my head right now. It's been a long day and I will watch it again tomorrow. A couple of times.
Going out dancing now. In my mind. While I'm sleeping. Good night.
Oh and like yeah, first and like, stuff, you know.
Brilliant video, even if it made me dizzy because of the sudden changes . But I really like it, love the style that was used. First DT animated video! Yeah!
I loved it
And still do after many viewings...
I'm with Defiance here. Brilliant video really, too bad I cannot watch it very accurately right now, as I'm on holiday and I'll have to do with this shitty old laptop.
But hey, mr Sundin, I do expect more videos like this now.
Fuck me, that's good.
Do one for Arkhangelsk.
Mr. Niklas that was nicely done albeit the sudden changes did hurt my head a bit why trying to follow the song. Still that was a nicely animated video and this is what we DT fans want to see more of from you, and songwriting
Certain persons (who are me) opined when the album came out that Iridium was about a meteor-related extinction event. They would seem to have been vindicated.
I really like the blank-faced people and the plodding "Irid." beast-machines. It really matches illustrative and mood-building lines like "We lie awake, we stand afire" in drawing a picture of the misery in the last days post-cataclysm.
After a couple more spins I take back aforementioned criticism and will remain being in awe for quite some time.
Congrats, it's really good.
Yeah, after the first couple of seconds I immediately recollected your excellent analysis - I think we can safely say you were spot on. I still have some comments on some of your thoughts on some other songs on the album, but fuck me if I ever get to write them down. Sorry.
Anyways, the video is absolutely amazing - I dare say the best DT music video to date - and I wish we see many more such works from Niklas.
The only thing that bothers me is the typo on "an end bayond compare". The font makes it less obvious, but once you see it you can't unsee it.
An amazing video, I really like it
Let's put it like this: each letter is slightly different, therefore it's entirely possible for that to be an inverted e or something. I choose to believe.
Excellent video. It reminds me of M.C. Escher's drawings, in the way the (almost fractal) figures fill the space.
On an unrelated note, why in the world do we now have a bouncing, tongue-a-lolling, middle-finger-on-both-hands-giving emoticon who apparently stole every other smiley's eyebrows?
Very beautiful video actually, as someone already said, Niklas should explode himself more not just in the music but doing things like this
Well I've always considered Niklas a genius, and this video just reinforces it. In fact the biggest reason I love In Flames' early albums is because of Niklas' lyrics.
I have an interesting question for all you guys, when did the song Iridium sort of "click" for you?
I was visiting my hometown about a year ago, and as I was driving away, this song came on in my mp3 player. As I was driving, everything was covered in snow, and somehow all this melancholy around, the song's apocalyptic theme, and the line "Now is the time to leave" came together nicely and somehow changed me inside a little. Been in love with this song since.
Disclaimer: The following expanded from pondering on an answer to VaSA's question, and should not be taken to express a preference for songwriters or a lack of appreciation for contributors not specifically mentioned.
I heard the song within about 12 hours of the album leak. Even in shit quality, I got it immediately. The hanging chords in the chorus, much like any given Amon Amarth song, are tributes to the natural fury that only northerners get. Typically, the fury of fimbulwinter; in the song, the flames that wash the world away. There's something about guitar shredding and double bass roll that reminds of razor wind, either in winter or on open water.
Sundin songs are very identifiable, even without writing credits, because they stand out so heavily from the writing that many other band members do (specifically, the Henriksson/Jivarp collaboration that pens the largest part of the discography on the most recent albums). While much of the core DT literature is fast-paced and focused on balancing the exploitation of powerful melodies with rapid, exciting transitions, Niklas' music is more classical and much more abstract.
Compare: Lost to Apathy, Blind at Heart, and Empty Me from Henriksson to Inside the Particle Storm, Iridium, Winter Triangle, Silence in the House of Tongues, and Star of Nothingness from Sundin.
Fiction and WatV both feature these really neat little instrumentals. While not a fair comparison to full-length vocal tracks, they do illustrate the point. Star of Nothingness moves through shades of melancholy, but it has a sense of movement to it. Winter Triangle need not even have the word 'winter' in the title; anyone who has ever ventured alone in midwinter night would immediately recognize the dramatic tranquility of the scene and the building sense of some looming "other" in the otherwise empty air. Silence in the House of Tongues, interestingly, is a miserable track, and almost certainly intentionally. The droning, dissonant guitars never move much in the song, but they drag the listener through their space. Some entertainment is art, but not all art is entertaining. This track communicates, but not a sentiment that you will necessarily want to hear daily; you probably have an abundance of your own misery to experience.
In the more developed songs, such as Inside the Particle Storm and Iridium, the same basic premise is extended. Rather than blast through multiple high-energy sections with an emphasis on transition, these songs feature longer sections, mini-movements in a classic sense, each developed to give the listener a sense of space. ItPS develops this lovely little groove, almost jazzy in its dissonance but a bit too menacing to be fun. The distortion drops in and lets you adjust to the new space before the slow chord changes of the guitars and synths shred every hope you had of getting some sleep tonight. Note how ridiculously slow the tempo is (for a metal song), and the number of words you can fit in a single line (Inside the Particle Storm, where clouds of napalm shiver with the promise of one final dawn). The song fades back into a melancholy clean section before rebuilding to it's chaotic crescendo. What's brilliant about this is the fact that that's not how modern music works, and is even fairly unique for DT. Changing it up in the middle is one thing, but dropping the drums to groove isn't done often. It should be noted that this isn't terribly uncommon for early 90's death metal (In Flames - Lord Hypnos).
I have nothing to say about Iridium that isn't already in the other thread, but in short: the chorus, and the verse-chorus transitions with the subtlety of a sledge-hammer to the groin. While the rapid transitions aren't exactly unprecedented (mostly I just want to share the greatest ever recording of a brilliant piece of music), they are always bold, ambitious moves. Here, the dramatic power of the chorus supports the brain damage of the transition by breaking your heart too.
What makes the choruses of both songs work is the death metal intensity applied to every note. The melodies are slow, but calculated note-for-note to drag you along the author's intended emotional ride (See also: Arkhangelsk). The death metal textures, a mix of buzz-saw guitars, rolling drums, and keys (organs in ItPS and whatever it is in Iridium that makes me feel like my skin is melting (synthetic brass?)), make each note a sizzling gift of wonder. While the more rapid songs guide you from section to section, allowing you to sample flavors of energy and emotion, these songs strap you down and force-feed you a hearty broth of hellfire in a single section.
While composers tend to work in certain styes, note that Sundin's Shadow in Our Blood is actually more like the Henriksson/Jivarp-type songs than his other abstract, impressionistic compositions. The Mundane and the Magic, conversely, sounds like something that Sundin would have written, but it actually belongs to the other side of this comparison.
TL;DR: Some DT songs are written by ninjas who will emotionally flay you before you even feel their blades, others are written by a mad impressionist who will paint spaces on your exposed gray matter.
To be honest, I didn't "get" Iridium until I saw this video. I found the lyrics very powerful right away, but the song as a whole just didn't "click" on me the way Inside the Particle Storm or Arkhangelsk did.
Then I watched the video and suddenly Iridium became my favorite song from We Are the Void.
Anyways, I had a bit of free time last week and inspired by the video I decided to go and read some Rilke online (the owl in the video carries a book with his name on it). I'm not much into poetry these days, but the bits that I read I found rather interesting.
The one thing I didn't get, however, was what the hell his poetry had to do with the song (or the video).
So, I went to wikipedia to read on Rilke the person - and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9833_Rilke
Duh. Why didn't I think that.
If it was all just a clever plan by Niklas to trick certain over-obsessed fans to read some hundred-year old poetry in desperate search of DT-related clues, well... he succeeded.