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Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by Luis, Jun 21, 2007.
its aight, biggest dissapointment this year though
we are by all means entitled to our opinions, however I strongly disagree
same, I found it to be a kamelot milestone, I mean its not my prefered kamelot album, but its def' driven with atmosphere! I really have nothin bad to say about it, nothing good either but hey lol!
The only reason that the album is a disappointment for me is because, as I've said a billion times on the Kamelot forum, (and Goth_Fiend can vouch for that), while the songs definitely have alot of atmosphere and drama, they're just not as well written as The Black Halo or Karma, and that was a HUGE disappointment for me. Too many of the songs were nothing but generic Soprano-fronted Goth Metal. And yes, I'm saying that while I'm pretty sure that Khan has a penis.
Songs like Love You To Death and Mourning Star are just REALLY boring, and they're boring to the point where I can't even force myself to love them to death. (Not to mention that Kamelot completely copped the name of one of my favorite Megadeth songs. )
The only masterpieces on the album really are Rule the World and Ghost Opera. And apparently, the band seems to hate me enough to just not want to play Rule the World on tour.
Easily the best work from kamelot yet. My second favorite release this year right after Allen/Lande.
As far as it being a concept dis. no it is not.
Here are what some of the songs are about:
Very sad topics and a total feel of melancholy throughout.
well I for one think it's a great album and am glad they decided to try a different sound than rehashing The Black Halo. with an album as perfect as TBH it was inevitable that a lot of "fans" would bitch about *whatever* they put out next. which is pretty sad and doesn't do such a talented band credit. i got nothing but confidence for Kamelot's future, they constantly reshape their sound and every album is killer.
They should stick to concept albums.
I agree with this statement. There's some good tunes on this new album, but nothing really stands out the way some songs on Karma and Black Halo (their two strongest albums, in my opinion) did.
However, I do like the idea of them NOT doing a concept album (for once). It shows that the band can branch out. Some of the songs have interesting ideas behind them (like the one about the German warship, which isn't something you would expect Kamelot to write about). I just wish the songs were a bit more progressive (longer, less commerical-sounding).
Anyway, the failure of Ghost Opera is in its lack of memorable melody and/or weak lyrics. There are some (very few) moments, but as a whole it's an album-worth of filler tracks. Very monotonic, very "safe" and generic. A labor to sit through.
Although I mentioned above that it got boring after a while I wouldn't call it my biggest disappointment of the year. That would have to be Systematic Chaos. For me it's one of the worst albums they've put out in a long time. I didn't like the previous 2 either, but at least I could find one or 2 songs on each that liked. I can't get through a whole song without being bored.
Hate to say it here, but PL was my 2nd biggest disappointment. Too much screaming, not enough singing, - and foget about the melodic stuff I came to love about SX. But ... I LOVE the title track. For me, it's worth the price of the entire CD by itself.
@ 'too much screaming'
You're right about Kamelot though.
Strongly disagreed. It would be far more "safe" if they had made a technically more versatile album,which was expected by the Black Halo fans. No need to say, they most probably are the majority. To see Ghost Opera as a"failure" is sth I can not understand. This is an obvious choice that they made, though i can not say anything about the matter of taste thing. For me Ghost Opera is really haunting.
Great songwriting, very clever sound arrangements, naive but extremely touchy atmosphere and a fantastic vocal performance is all i can say about this album.
I completely beg to differ about "great songwriting", "clever sound arrangements", and "fantastic vocal performance".
It's by far their weakest album and weak by any standard.
Going by the albums I have so far. I'd say Epica is the weakest sounding album. I'd personally place Ghost Opera 3rd behind Karma and The Fourth Legacy.
Epica has great songs on it. Ghost Opera lacks even one.
In my opinion, thus far...
Black Halo > Karma > Ghost Opera > all the rest
Black Halo>Epica>Karma>4th Legacy>Ghost Opera>Everything else.
It has it's moments.
I could never get into Epica. I think it does have a few strong songs, and those songs in particular are stronger than the best ones from Ghost Opera, but I feel the latter is a more consistent album.
No it is not Maybe "by your standarts"
Khan's voice got into a mutation with TBH. To a darker tone and more bariton character. I liked it but it was not very precise in TBH. In Ghost Opera his new voice sounds far better.
BTW, totally agreed with Detective Clarence Beauregard.