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Discussion in 'RC' started by General Zod, Aug 18, 2006.

  1. circus_brimstone

    circus_brimstone Forest: Sold Out

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  2. Demilich

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    I used to think that too but then I started to get bored with it and now I just can't even listen to very much of it at all. This is very disheartening as I used to love it a lot.
     
  3. circus_brimstone

    circus_brimstone Forest: Sold Out

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    Trashing the latest from Agalloch, Katatonia, and Woods of Ypres? I'm about to put a price on your head! :p
     
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    I got bored with The Great Cold Distance pretty fast. Viva Emptiness has stood the test of time for me and remains my favourite "new" era disc from them.
     
  5. Krilons Resa

    Krilons Resa High Infidelity

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    So, with the new album forthcoming, let's revisit Katatonia, shall we? I haven't listened to any of their albums since Viva Emptiness. Which album should I check out?

    I'm looking at you, Erik.
     
  6. NAD

    NAD What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse

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    Top Five Katatonia Albums Since Viva Emptiness:

    1. Dead End Kings
    1. Night is the New Day
    3. The Great Cold Distanc
    4. The Fall of Hearts
    7. Dethroned and Uncrowned

    I will pre-order the new album and wait impatiently.

    The best song since Burn the Remembrance is this:

     
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  7. NAD

    NAD What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse

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    I need some Katatonic help as well:

    Is the remaster version of Brave Murder Day with picking up? My older CD is a typical non-mastered version and I've never found anything wrong with it (in fact it is about as perfect as albums get), but maybe the mastered version would make a fun compare/contrast?

    Brave Murder Day is my favoUrite album by one of my favoUrite bands so having multiple versions of the same thing with only subtle differences is absolutely a Thing that I'm into, even if I'm not normally into the whole remaster game. Guess I just answered my own question?
     
  8. einride

    einride friendly pal with a smile

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    oh hey

    ima be real, i stopped buying new katatonia albums after "night is the new day" because they kind of started going through the motions imo. i wasn't feeling it. maybe they felt the same and that is why they had their recent hiatus. looking forward to trying out the new one.

    so imo the best of the "new" albums is the great cold distance, easily. it is very coherent and high quality throughout. it is similar in style to viva emptiness but has better production and is a little more streamlined. i think it has aged very gracefully and is an easy recommendation.

    "night is the new day" is about half very good, especially the opening "forsaker"/"the longest year" and half pretty cheesy and not great. they went all finn-metal with "day and then the shade" and "idle blood" is a shit opeth ripoff. and they try to be DOOM METAL again on "nephilim" and i don't really buy it.

    then after that it gets softer, less metal, more "prog" (i.e. more fuckin around with time signatures for no real good reason) but most importantly -- more predictable and less genuine. so: not impressed overall with either of the last two but i still love the band so i'm going to give them a new chance when city burials comes out.
     
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    i speak as someone to whom brave murder day is the literal #1 top 1 best album of all time ever:

    no, don't bother

    it sounds the same but worse. like they just put a fuckin compressor on top. which is what they did.

    i mean of all the albums that didn't need a remaster, bmd is very near the top. the original is spacious and beautiful with DR14 dynamics (http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/103181) -- destroying that is purely a record company gimmick in order to get to put a sticker on the cover and sell you the same stuff again but worse. don't get owned by $$$. boycott remasters. unless it's nattens madrigal from the ulver boxset.
     
  10. NAD

    NAD What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse

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    Dang. Well, I ended up buying a remastered copy directly from Blakkheim. Maybe the liner notes will be cool. Agreed about Nattens Madrigal (I own 3 versions of that album WTF).

    That one Opeth song on Night is the New Day is really pretty blatant, the only reason I forgive them is because those dudes are bros or something. Also that album opens and closes so well that a meh middle moment can be overlooked.

    Also: I am finally wrapping my head around Dance of December Souls. That one didn't click for me until very recently, and I have tried and tried and tried. Seems to be working now, after about 13 years of spins.
     
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  11. J.

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    Not katatonia but related. Are those Diabolical Masquerade cds worth picking up? I remember hearing Nightwork like 10 years ago and thinking it was okay.

    I only have dods, bmd, and that brave yesterdays comp. All i need really. I liked discouraged ones a bit
     
  12. NAD

    NAD What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse

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    They are a lot of Fun if not quite Amazing. Nightwork and Death's Design get spun a lot 'round Hallowe'en time.
     
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    I agree with Erik about great cold distance being their best post V.E. I would also like to emphasize that the b-sides from that albums are awesome-- as good if not better than half the album tracks:


    Displaced, Dissolving Bonds, Unfurl, and Code against Code.









    I’m not as down on the albums after that though. I find Dead End Kings a much better overall album than Night is the New Day [their weakest—opener aside], and I think Fall of Hearts is a grower and somewhat underrated, although their most inaccessible album of the last four—nothing really jumps out. It does not come off that proggy to me—see tracks below and the B-sides as well)



    1. Great cold distance (Soil Song,, In the White, Increase, July, )
    2. Dead End Kings (The Parting, Racing Heart, leathen, first prayer)
    3. Fall of Hearts (Serein, residual, serac, the night subscriber, last song before the fade

    Also see the bonus tracks: Vakaren (in Swedish) Wide awake in quietus (very different sounding than the rest of the album, almost like a tonights decision track) Sistre






    4. Night is the new day
     
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    code against the code and dissolving bonds are so fuckin good, indeed at least as good as the actual album

    not as sold on the other two but they’re fine
     
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    thanks for bringing this to my attention btw

    it absolutely must be a leftover from around tonight's decision that was overhauled and finished recently, there is no way this is a new composition

    it ticks way too many "tonight's decision" boxes for it to be a coincidence

    [x] that echoed clean guitar style like in the intro of "for my demons"
    [x] straightforward riffin and drummin with none of the tech shit they like to pull these days
    [x] classic-ass blakkheim leads
    [x] mellotron (well kind of)
    [x] the fx'd vocals in the little break
    [x] good
    [x] but not good enough to not be a b-side (the [non-]transition into the last chorus is awkward af for instance)

    so basically this is the only post-2010 katatonia song i've managed to listen to more than three times
     

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