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Knowledge Of Compositional Theory

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by no country for old wainds, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. V.V.V.V.V.

    V.V.V.V.V. Houses Ov Mercury

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    I like music that sounds good to my ears and I don't know any instruments. I have no knowledge of musical theory. I understand music for what it is in a deeper sense than JUST MUSIC. I don't care about its "worldview," although I don't really bother with reading into it that much. Call me ignorant, but it works for me, and you can't deny me on that.
     
  2. None_So_Vile

    None_So_Vile Malign Paradigm

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    I completely agree with V.V.V.V.V, he's hit the nail on the head for me
     
  3. no country for old wainds

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  4. Henrik Main

    Henrik Main Hello

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    On a completely unrelated note - I checked out your Audioscrobbler page, and was surprised (in a positive way) to find that you've listened A LOT to Cryptopsy lately. I thought you hated the band, due to, amongst other things "illogical chord progressions" and slap bass ;)
     
  5. Scourge of Malice

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    why spend so much time analyzing a song when you can just listen to it and enjoy it?
     
  6. no country for old wainds

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    I listened to two albums once each, seeing as I hadn't heard them for a while and decided to give them another chance. Hardly counts as 'a lot' ;) I only registered 2 or 3 days ago so they were top for a time, I think.

    The songs I've just been listening too make for a laugh, though. My friend sent them to me. Honest.
     
  7. Henrik Main

    Henrik Main Hello

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    Fair enough, the graph thing tricked me into believing that you'd listened to them a lot. At a closer look, I see that that is not the case.
     
  8. no country for old wainds

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    I'm not sure if I ever commented on illogical chord progressions and slap bass, btw. :err: It's all a bit of a samey, stuttery mess over-packed with tempo changes, that's my issue with Cryptopsy. I also don't like the vocals, drumming or production in some cases.
     
  9. Crimson Velvet

    Crimson Velvet Sønn av Syperi

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    Extensive knowledge about music theory doesn't write interesting riffs, nor does it produce nice melodies. So, in the end, it's not really that important. Just look at Dream Theater. ;) Myself, I don't know that much about music theory, just enough to substitude some music lessons for ten-year-olds every know and then. But hey, I've been listening to metal for almost two decades years now, and I'm doing fine now without it.

    And Guardian, what's your Audioscrobbler nick? I'm always interested in checking out what other peope's listening to. Same to you, Henrik.
     
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    Crimson Velvet Sønn av Syperi

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    Thanks, I guess disabling sigs aren't always smart... :)
     
  12. no country for old wainds

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    Nah, I disabled them ages ago, they're hugely annoying.
     
  13. anonymousnick2001

    anonymousnick2001 World's Greatest Vocalist

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    It was a joke. Those are the standard elitist bullshit reasons for why Cryptopsy is "worthless music." Your reasons are far more valid.
     
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    Not that I like slap bass in DM, as a general rule.
     
  15. anonymousnick2001

    anonymousnick2001 World's Greatest Vocalist

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    I think the possiblity of further exploration and utilization is certainly there. Any statement like "Assholes love slap bass" will only get a fart in the face from me. It's like funk dosn't even exist. Not only is it awesome, and neglected, but it can alos provide an interesting foray into DM basswork.
     
  16. Demiurge

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    I just don't like sloppily-constructed(perhaps even incoherently structured) music. I'm sorry that my "elitist bullshit" does not jibe with your supremely inclusive worldview. Really, I wish I could be as open-minded as you are. I'm trying really hard to follow in your footsteps. For example, yesterday I snuck a retard into a sperm bank because I'm tired of people with average intelligence being prejudiced against the differently abled. I like to help spread diversity when I can.

    There are few things I hate more than funk. I promise I will try to broaden my horizons by going to the local Tower and spending 200$ on it, though, because I must not understand it.
     
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    Anal Cunt. :D
     
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    So with this "sloppy and incoherent construction" thing, you are talking about the albums without Worm and not things like None So Vile, right?
     
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    I'd be interested for you to elaborate on not liking None So Vile. I can see parts of what you mean about the construction; there are a few sections of chromatic riffs that might seem like they're just there to be there, but that's a very small part of the album.
     

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