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Discussion in 'Children Of Bodom' started by (__Joonas__), Oct 8, 2009.

  1. COB-666

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    I understand they have to support their new album, but it would have been nice to see them play much more old material instead of some of the stuff on there. Oh well, I guess. I saw them twice and they were pretty good both times but I think that they've run their course honestly. I'll certainly miss them because they were a big part of where I am as a guitar player, and their music made a huge impact on me when I first heard Black Widow all those years ago.
     
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    (__Joonas__) † Followed the Reaper †

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    They play too many 'pop' songs from their catalogue (eleven songs off CRY, wtf?) instead of understanding they have more exciting songs that are rarely if ever played. And then learn the lyrics, too, and dedicate to the vocals, act a bit pissed off on stage. It doesn't feel like they're "out to kill" when playing a weird setlist and not dedicating to vocals. Making a good setlist is like making a song, you just have to do it alone or the feeling gets messed up. Not going into unnecessary details, but there are many ways to make their setlists more moody and electrifying. I've given up after seeing they already dropped Warheart and Hatebreeder off the set and went back to certain other songs. The green and blue album are their best, stick with that as foundation, then add from elsewhere, with taste.

    I think the whole joking-between-songs thing is also the wrong way to 'set up' the feeling for this kind of music, instead they should just do horror ambient and short, depressed talks as passages, these are great to intensify the feeling and create suspense. It would be more impactful also if Alexi acted like barely anyone in the crowd knows who they are - that's how you draw new blood, not by being buddies with those that are already your fans, while unknowingly shutting away the rest of the world.

    Things have changed with the last four albums not being dark enough, but who knows, maybe a miracle will happen if the new players are metal-heads who subconsciously push the songwriter for a darker style album, and maybe the singer will get freed up with the cleared chemistry.
     
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    Dude, their last 3 albums where more than double as dark as their first 5. Hatebreeder, Follow the Reaper and HCDR are full of happy-metal songs.

    I honestly don't get what you want. You want their old style back with songs similar to the ones off HB and FTR and on the other side you want darker albums. That doesn't match.
     
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    ^I don't know dude. On the other hand I hear FTR (the song) as uplifting, while some hear it as dark. I think Halo of Blood is the darkest song they've done in the last ten years and it's not surprise I like it, having gone more towards the black metal stuff. People perceive music differently. To me Hatebreeder is their darkest album and every day I realize more and more how amazing the first songs are, it's like you put a venomous serpent in your player that'll come haunt you in your sleep.
     
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    I think we have a different understanding of the word "dark" in connection with the word "music".

    The darkest song on HB is... nope. There's no dark song. All typical neoclassical Bodom songs with happy melodies. The darkest song on FTR is maybe ETID. All other aren't dark as well.

    Compare any song of HB with songs like Widdershins or HoB.
     
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    I can kind of see what Joonas means. While the songs on HB aren't as dark as material by other bands, Black Widow and Downfall definitely have an eerie type of vibe to them.
     
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    CoB were always more angry than dark, no matter early or late albums. I wouldn't call neither HoB nor early stuff dark. Certain riffs maybe, whole songs no. Alexi loves melody and in order to be dark you need to play around with dissonant unstable sound. For example:

    Melodic death metal rarely ever wanders into that territory.
     
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    NewHewkas Scheiße Gitarre Spieler

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    Moreover as we know Alexi has lived his depressive moments of his life rather in a reckless, self-abusing way than "crying in the corner, vein cutting" ?hence Wild Child?
     
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  10. CharIie

    CharIie Formerly known as Joker and IDontKnowWhatToWrite

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    Talking of dark CoB song, I believe Hexed was their darkest album to date. The early albums were all about neo-classical melodies (which often gave off a happy vibe indeed), the later albums were more *chugga chugga*. But Hexed has got this very dark groove going on. I mean, listen to Say Never Look Back. That song evokes at best sadness and anger, and at worst deep anguish and despair.
     
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    CharIie Formerly known as Joker and IDontKnowWhatToWrite

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    Or Soon Departed. I mean... Everything about this is so tensed.



    I know this is an unpopular opinion around the forum. But I still think Hexed might actually be the best Children of Bodom album. And that's coming from someone who loves the early Bodom rather than the late.
     
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    Hexed definitely is a good one IMO. It was my most listened to album of 2019 according to Spotify. I wouldn't say it's my favorite from Bodom, but it does fit into the top 5 I think. Can't decide which one I prefer H or HOB.
     

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