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\m/ Power Metal Discussion \m/

Discussion in 'Old School Metal Discussion' started by MrGlam999Metal, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. MrGlam999Metal

    MrGlam999Metal Youth Gone Wild

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    Let's get some Power Metal bands out please

    Helloween
    Iced Earth
    Rhapsody Of Fire
    Primal Fear
    Savatage
    Gamma Ray
    Armored Saint
    DragonForce (only ok)
     
  2. MEATSANDWICH

    MEATSANDWICH 1000 MILES OF COCK

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    Alestorm
    Manowar
    Accept
    Dragonland
    Demons & Wizards
    Sabaton
    Metal Church
    Dark Moor
    Dream Evil
    Grim Reaper
    Edguy
    AfterForever
    Angra
    Luca Turilli

    some more to get out there
     
  3. poundingmetal74

    poundingmetal74 Demons Will Fly

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    To name a few:
    Dream Evil, Edguy / Avantasia, Brainstorm, Crimson Glory (?), Helloween, Avian, Vanden Plas, Eternal Reign (Brainstorm's clone), Allen/Lande, ASKA, Betrayer, Balance of Power, Pyramaze, Yngwie (more or less), Burning Point, Cans / Hammerfall, Crown of Glory, Dionysus, Edwin Dare, Firewind, House of Spirits, Icarus Witch, Lord, Lost Horizon, Machine Men, (Wicked) Maraya, Metallium, Million, Mystic Prophecy, Nightmare (France), Sword, Nocturnal Rites, Outworld (?), Pagan's Mind, Parish, Power Glove, Revolution Renaissance, Redemption (?), Rob Rock, Sandalinas, Saint Daemon, Sanvoisen (?), Shadowkeep, Silent Force, Sinner, Squealer, Theocracy, Threshold (?), Thunderstone, Twilightning, USM, When the Empire Falls, Wolf (Black Flame-era), Wycked Synn.
     
  4. Wyvern

    Wyvern Master of Disaster
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    Shiiiit, that would be a long weird one for me. I love power metal, especially European, but I don't like a lot of bands considered great in the sub-genre and I hate some bands that I feel they had degradated the sub-genre. Also I may mention some bands that are not strictly power metal (including some prog-power) so, here it goes:

    Helloween (except a couple of albums and being dissapointed from TDR up to now)
    Heavens Gate
    Hammerfall
    Blind Guardian
    Riot
    Viron
    Cryonic Temple
    Steel Prophet
    Bloden-Wedd
    Freedom Call
    Majesty
    Beto Vazquez Infinity
    Wolf
    Nightwish (first three albums majorly)
    Ostrogoth
    Avalanch (first three albums)
    Azrael
    Imperio
    Renacer
    Lorihen
    Azeroth
    Jezabel
    Power Symphony
    Primal Fear (last two albums, I being new to them)
    Angra
    Pharaoh
    Phantom-X
    Onward
    Forgotten Tales
    Adramelch
    Alkemyst
    Angel Dust (second era)
    Astral Doors
    Anubis Gate
    Mezmerize
    Miles Beyond
    Black Steel
    Evil Masquerade
    Crystal Ball (one album, too cheesy for me)
    Falconer
    Firwewind
    Grave Digger (a couple of albums, can't stand the vocalist)
    Highland Glory
    Iced Earth (a couple of albums only)
    Iron Savior (only have one album)
    Savage Circus
    Labyrinth (only have one album)
    Malediction
    Manigance
    Pegazus
    Seventh One
    Sinergy
    Stormhammer
    Tribuzy
    Viper
    Warrior
    Vindex
    Running Wild (first two albums only)
    Nightscape (bordering on neoclassical and cheesy)
    Aska

    Now some may consider some neoclassical acts as power metal and thus you have to add bands like:

    Yngwie Malmsteen
    Majestic
    Time Requiem
    Space Odyssey

    Also you find stuff like Alestorm or Skyclad after (and including) "Irrational Anthems" which is power with folk influences including the use of violin.

    I think power metal depending on your vision is a very broad (maybe thebroadest) sub-genre of metal.
     
  5. DeadlySinners

    DeadlySinners Thrasher

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    Those 3 posts are enough to sum up
    pretty much every Power Metal I
    have ever heard of...
    But I tend to stick to my Thrash.
     
  6. Janga666

    Janga666 Infamous Butcher

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  7. No-Mercy

    No-Mercy Feanor

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    ones that havent been said yet...

    Aquaria
    Elvenking
    Ensiferum
    Heavenly
    Highlord
    Human Fortress
    Kamelot
    Magistral
    Nightwish
    Obsession
    Power Quest
    Saxon
    Silver Mountain
    Sonata Arctica
    Stratovarius
    Symphorce
    Tad Morose
    Tarot
    Vision Divine

    ...and all the rest
    Angra
    Blind Guardian
    Bloodbound
    Brainstorm
    CIIC
    Dark Empire
    Demons & Wizards
    Domain
    Dragonland
    Dream Evil
    Edguy
    Falconer
    Freedom Call
    Gamma Ray
    Hammerfall
    Helloween
    Iced Earth
    Kamelot
    Labyrinth
    Lost Horizon
    Luca Turilli
    Masterplan
    Mystic Prophecy
    Nocturnal Rites
    Primal Fear
    Pyramaze
    Rhapsody
    Savage Circus
    Thunderstone
     
  8. Pagan Angel666

    Pagan Angel666 New Metal Member

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    Why is there no mention of german power metal band Axxis??
    I gathered i'm probbably the only person on the site who's heard of them (:rofl:) but they need recognition because they've been going for 20 and their music rules. Also earlier this year they headlined a tour woth Helloween and Gamma Ray :D
    \m/
     
  9. Marco Spain

    Marco Spain Member

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    Maybe that´s because Axxis can only be considered more or less power metal in their last 2 or 3 albums. They used to be german hard and heavy with high pitched vocals. Anyway, they´re gods :worship: and Bernhard Weiss one of the funniest frontman I´ve ever seen.

    You have put too many names but mixing a lot in my opinion. For me, topic deals with Euro (happy) power metal. For me, real power metal are Helstar, Abbatoir, Powersurge,...

    By the way, Wyvern, seeing Avalanch between two glorious bands like Wolf and Ostrogoth is almost an insult :lol:. I love Avalanch... but just after those three albums, the last three ones when they avoided the power metal stuff.
     
  10. Wyvern

    Wyvern Master of Disaster
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    I was putting names of my mind before checking my inventory of albums. As you pointed again after the third album Rionda took the band straight to hell. They played here and I missed them, not intersted. My friend Darren was the promoter and make a good contact with the band earning the distribution rights and all that fuzz. He gave me the 4th and 5th album as a gift, I listended to them and returned to him :lol:

    I forgot in my list:

    Lion's Share
    Obstruction
    Omen
    Sabaton (what a heresy forgot them!)
    Pretty Maids (at least the first albums)
     
  11. SentinelSlain

    SentinelSlain Suck my joined date.

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    Cloven Hoof (sort of)
    Scanner
    Elixir (first album anyway,I don't have any others)
     
  12. Powermetal Rebel

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    Powermetal??? How did I almost miss this thread???

    Here's my short list.......... Well, I'll try to keep it short..
    Stainless Steel (Hun) :Smokin:
    Gaia Epicus:headbang:
    Wuthering Heights:kickass:
    Domine:worship:
    Axxis
    Illium
    Salamandra
    Virgin Steele
    Falconer
    Sabaton
    Almora
    Celesty
    Dreamtale
    Conquest
    Custard - (First 2 CD's):heh:
    Dark Moor
    Derdian
    Elwing
    Gallow's Pole (Aus)
    Brocas Helm
    Insania (Swe)o_O
    Sonata Arctica
    Jacob's Dream
    Lord Weird Slough Feg
    Olympos Mons
    Rebellion
    Ritual Steel
    Seventh Avenue:loco:
    Solemnity
    Storyteller
    Axenstar
    Dungeon
     
  13. Abryl

    Abryl Six Super Bowl rings

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    I was gonna say, how come no one had mentioned Strato. I guess they are sort of one of those band you either love or hate.

    I love power metal, but not all of it... Some bands just sound all the same. I just recently got into Excalion, I suppose they can be considered power metal, they sound very fresh and great vocals.
     
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    I hate the way the term "power metal" is used these days. How can bands like Helloween, Kamelot, and Rhapsody be considered POWERFUL? How would I categorize those bands? Speed metal in my book because they're predominantly repetitive double bass drumming and super fast tempo. I can also live with the term Euro metal. Less appealing to me, but still acceptable are "flower metal" and "happy metal". But they certainly aren't power metal.

    To me, power metal should be reserved for bands with lots of punch and crunch to their music, regardless of tempo. Bands like Iced Earth and Rage are power metal to me.
     
  15. Orion Crystal Ice

    Orion Crystal Ice Rider of the Astral Fire

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    I have no problem with the term used, the genre uses more bombastic and theatrical melodic ideas so much more intensely than other genres, for one thing. I think a chorus such as 'Dawn of Victory' or 'Land of the Free' is immensely powerful when done well. I also never understood the whole 'gay', 'flower metal' thing,..a little too over-compensating if you ask me...and also, being a long time listener of tons of bands included in the genre, I can always hear a clear distinction between a band that does it horribly and awkward and a serious band with solid hooks and skills in song structuring.

    Since this is the old school forum, though, I'm going to keep the references to older bands:

    Running Wild
    Stormwitch
    Crimson Glory
    Fifth Angel (sometimes)
    Rainbow (sometimes)
    Malice
    Omen
    Emerald
    Liege Lord
    Moon of Steel
    Recon
    Jag Panzer
    Sacred Warrior
    Fates Warning (early)
    Queensrÿche (early)
    Iron Maiden (sometimes)


    ahh yes, all that wonderful stuff which is too melodic, complex, or fast paced to be classic meat and potatoes metal, but not quite speed or thrash at all either.
     
  16. Wyvern

    Wyvern Master of Disaster
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    Same here. I guess a lot of people who dislike some bands in what is broadly called power metal feel pissed of threatened by the whole happy atmosphere some bands deliver. Some metalheads think metal should be angry all the time, which is to me absurd. Metal is a just a music genre and therefore it will reflect the mood of the composer as well as any other genre (classic, jazz, pop, etc.). There are extremes in both ends, some bands are always sugarly cotaed while others exude nothing by hatred all the time, I prefer a midway place for my stuff.
     
  17. Frost Giant

    Frost Giant The Winter's Wrath

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    Aquaria is incredible. And how about some fucking CELLADOR!!!???
     
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    carnut \m/

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    As TSO, I have some trouble with the way the "Powermetal" term is used these days. Most of the European bands that are concidered "Power" are (imo !) not more than melodic metal bands. I can't find the "power" in bands like Sonatica, Dragonforce, Gamma Ray, Rhapsody ,etc... The term "Power Metal" was already used in the 80's but was intended for much less "happy" metal bands such as Savatage, Jag Panzer, Damien Thorne, Metal Church, Loudness, Exxplorer, Liege Lord, Manowar etc....
    As for new "Power" Metal bands, to my ears those are bands like Tad Morose, Zero Hour, Meyvn, Nevermore, Outworld, Benedictum ...
     
  19. Wyvern

    Wyvern Master of Disaster
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    Well I have a problem in using the term power for such bands as you described. I won't never consider Loudness power, merely classic metal as for Metal Church to me like Meliah Rage has been closer to thrash but I understand what they qualify for a power place. Ostrogoth is clearly a power metal band and is barely a year earlier (album debut) than Helloween. And Riot had power songs in their 70's albums.

    Many can argue than bands like Helloween and Blind Guardian started more like speed metal than power metal bands as an example. For reasons of my own upbringing into the genre I found traditionally as power metal bands: Helloween, Blind Guardian, Heavens Gate, Steel Prophet and yes I can't find the power either in Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica, Skylark, Stratovarius, Dragonforce, etc.

    Today the lines are excesively blurred and the term is too broad since zillions of bands have entered the arena since 1985. So for me is the same if people can catalogue: Dream Evil, Astral Doors, Wolf, Sabaton, Hammerfall as power metal or heavy metal, because for sure they're not thrash, doom, death, prog or black!
    And as for the moniker "melodic heavy metal" is as tricky as hair, flower or some other unconfortable monikers people tnd to use. For one most of the bands I listen too have a good melody management, therefore they are melodic metal, and second I will use melodic metal in the worst case scenario for bands like Praying Mantis, Fatal Force, Allen/Lande, Masterplan which I recognize they are not power enough to my ears.

    So I guess in THE END of all things is up to each and everyone of us to draw the lines and decide by OURSELVES what is power and what is not (and that goes for all the major sub-genres, if not I dare anyone to start a thread of where doom ends and stoner starts or viceversa, or speed and thrash).

    I got Cellador album debut and dissapointed me BIG TIME, is like another Dragonforce, playing fasther than thou over-sweetened metal. People can catalogue them as power, I have no problem since it's up to everyone (like I said above) but to me they just fail to deliver whatever they wanted to.
     
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    Frost Giant The Winter's Wrath

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    Of course, if a band isn't pleasing to your ears then you won't be convinced to like them, but I do not agree that Cellador is like Dragonforce. The only similarity is the tempo of some of their songs being similar and the use of Suffo-style blast beats in certain parts. I like Cellador more than I like Dragonforce and here is why:

    Cellador's debut album was, to me, a great example of why what they do should be called POWER metal, because it's powerful. It wasn't gussied up with overbearing keyboards or orchestration. It didn't have some schlocky ballad- and I don't care who it bothers but Dragonforce ballads are the drizzling shits. Cellador had 8 ripping tracks on Enter Deception, not one of them was a ballad. Cellador plays in more than one tempo, too, whereas Dragonforce has either fast or ballad with little in-between (their latest album tries to vary it but it sounds really forced). And lastly, I'd stack up Cellador vs. Dragonforce live any day- DF can't really pull off their material live and Cellador, when I saw them, were amazing.

    Now, if you don't like the music, that's one thing, but I don't think they sound like Dragonforce, and I don't think they're over-sweetened either. Their songs are a little darker, perhaps because they play in a half-step down from standard tuning, and they're much more aggressive than most of today's power metal bands.

    I submit that they deserve to be on that list more than Ensiferum does (I don't know why anyone would consider them power metal- they're awesome, but not power metal).
     

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