just grabbed meshuggah's obzen (i know i'm late to the party), and damn, it's the very best thing meshuggah has ever done as far as i am concerned. i loved the I EP, but this seems to be the first meshuggah album that's full of SONGS if you know what i mean, yet it's as technical as ever. i'm absolutely loving every song on it. anyways, i was quite surprised when i checked out the notes....recorded in their own studio, mixed by thordendal himself. tbh, i did not see this coming. haven't been able to check it in the studio yet, but the mix absolutely slays in my car and on regular speakers. check out the gear list of their studio (http://www.falstudios.com/gear.html)....it's nothing out of the ordinary even for a decent project studio...mackie mixer, cubase sx3, uad 1, krk/event monitoring, rme conversion etc. i got to say, this album makes me think that self producing your records can work out really fucking well. having björn engelmann master it surely doesn't hurt either, but after all that's just the icing on the cake. so far, the only thing it seems to lack is some of the really nice automated fx stuff the big names tend to do....listening in high detail seems to show that there's some of the "sweetness" coming from really high end pre's, a/d, mics etc which it can't quite reproduce, but on the other hand, the mix seems to work perfectly for the highly technical and mechanical music. plus i didn't really notice before knowing about the self production thing, so there might very well some mind thing involved here lol. anyways, feel free to discuss!