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Meshuggah Talks S*#% On Nightwish

Discussion in 'ProgPower USA' started by Dolamite S. Biffle, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. Kaosaur

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    You can add metal riffs to pop music.

    It's the very idea that Ginger had in mind when he formed The Wildhearts. He'd even said as much. (even though they're a pop hard rock band)
     
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    General Zod Ruler of Australia

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    Wyvern... whether you meant to or not, I believe you just supported my argument. You named a dozen female fronted bands, whose lead singers don't sound like Pop singers, and none of them are popular here in the U.S.

    LOL. I like how you chose the last word, of that entire post, to take issue with. And, you took it out of context. What I said was, "All in all, he's really only taking issue with their classification and marketing."

    Note, I said "classification" before I said "marketing", thereby expressing its greater importance. The crux of my argument has been about their classification, and now you're attempting to construct a strawman argument based on the final word of my post?

    Look... you think Nightwish is Metal. Fine. As I said, so do I. I merely said I can see why he or someone else wouldn't. If you can't see why someone might not view Nightwish as Metal, that's fine with me. We can agree to disagree.

    Zod
     
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    * sh0kr0k is in awe of the mighty power with which Brent threw the Junior Mints, such that they ended up IN the very floor! Whoa...
     
  4. Bryan316

    Bryan316 METAL... nuff said!

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    It's not that I disagree with the idea of hating a band. The bands I hate, I got damn good reasons to. Trust me, I'm quite the elitist snob when it comes to my music as well.

    But if you're a published musician, earning a living off your music, you SHOULD be a little humble or at least polite about your fellow label mates.





    Then again, he can go ahead and follow in Phil Anselmo's trash talking ways, I don't care.
     
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    I've got a great way to settle this. Annette vs. the Meshuggah dude in a no holds barred fight in the Octagon. If Annette kicks his ass, that proves that Nightwish is more metal than Meshuggah.

    BTW, I forgot to ask. Who the heck is Meshuggah?
     
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  7. General Zod

    General Zod Ruler of Australia

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    LOL.

    Some intolerable Math Metal band.:puke:

    Zod
     
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    You've got to be kidding me.
     
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    This was a fun read.....though the original statement is worthless at best....a rant at worst.

    The rock tree really diverts into way too many subs with too many taking it all too seriously.
    This is really not about Metal as a genre but sub-sub-sub-genres taken as THE metal genre

    Main Genre: Rock
    Sub Genre: Metal
    Past that go where you may, but it's all metal, like it or not.

    With that, both bands are metal to varying degrees/sub-genres.
    Neither band could legitimately be categorized out of the main metal genre...like them or not.

    Nothing wrong with a pop flavored metal band...
    ...nor a "my dog can growl better than your lead singer" band.
     
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    A few months ago, I though Meshuggah was some ghetto hiphop group (mistranslated ebonics, e.g. My Sugar).

    To be fair, I've seen and heard many offensive/ridiculous tirades from industry pros/musicians. Hagström may not be that great with words or subtlety, but, you can tell he tried to scope his remarks to a single aspect of Nightwish. Give the dude some credit for trying to make a bold statement with some careful wording.
     
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    General Zod Ruler of Australia

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    Does that mean Rock is merely a sub-genre of Blues, and Blues is merely a sub-genre of African Folk, and so on and so forth until everything is just a sub-genre of the first Neanderthal who rhythmically struck one rock against another?

    While its lineage is traced back through Rock, Metal is a genre unto itself.

    Zod
     
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    King Lek King of Lekworld

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    Theoretically....yes....though even I would not buy into it.

    Debatable, but certainly not worth the time unless killing a few late nite beers. :)
     
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    Only decent thread on this forum in MONTHS.

    :kickass::kickass::kickass:
     
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    General Zod Ruler of Australia

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    True... beer does make everything more debatable. :kickass:

    Zod
     
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    Daughtry is metal!
     
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    adaher wins


    If I hadn't already known, just going by their name I would've guessed they were some Israeli/Jewish band :)
     
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    I actually thought he showed some restraint with his comments. They could've been worse. He never said their music sucked and he didn't even mention the fact that their "pop / metal" singer cried on stage.
     
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    Pellaz Tigron of Immanion

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    This made my night. :kickass: :lol:
     
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    +1
     
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    Iced Dog The Stormrider's Pooch

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    Hold tight folks, there's been a new development in this story...

    http://www.bravewords.com/news/109220

    Be sure to tune in next for, As The Metal World Turns :)
     

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