This site is supported by the advertisements on it, please disable your AdBlocker so we can continue to provide you with the quality content you expect.

Welcome to Our Community

Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today.

Metal: A Headbanger's Journey

Discussion in 'ProgPower USA' started by General Zod, Jun 6, 2006.

  1. General Zod

    General Zod Ruler of Australia

    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Messages:
    14,210
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    New Jersey
    I had no idea what to expect when I popped in this DVD last night. Though there had been a good deal of chatter about this flick, on some of the boards I read, I never followed them.

    For starters, given this was a documentary made from a fan's perspective, I was skeptical that this would be some half-assed, fanboy attempt to glorify Metal. However, the guy who made this film is no slouch. Sam Dunn is a 30-year old anthropologist, who wrote his graduate thesis on the plight of Guatemalan refugees. Sam sets out on a global journey to find out why this music has been consistently stereotyped, dismissed and condemned and yet is loved so passionately by its millions of fans. He speaks to Bruce Dickinson, Lemmy, Ronnie James, Geddy Lee and countless others. He also speaks with everyone from academics to a priest in Norway, who lost one of his churches during the 1990s, when Black Metal bands were burning down churches. He also delves into a lot of different subjects; Metal's origins, its fans, the place of woman, the various sub-genres, it's role in society, etc. During his travels he goes to the aforementioned Norway, England, NYC, Canada, and Germany for Wacken. The documentary is quite comprehensive and quite entertaining. I'd highly recommend it to any fan of the genre.

    Zod
     
  2. edgeofthorns

    edgeofthorns 24 Hours Ago...

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2005
    Messages:
    6,603
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    City beneath the surface
    So, what's he exactly trying to accomplish with this? Is he trying to pursuade people that metal isn't as bad as people try to make it out to be or is he simply trying to educate people that might not have a clue about the genre?
     
  3. General Zod

    General Zod Ruler of Australia

    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Messages:
    14,210
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    New Jersey
    His primary question is, "why has Metal been consistently stereotyped, dismissed and condemned?". However, before he answers this question, he examines the gernre's origins, fanbase, image, etc.

    I found his approach impressive. While he's a self-proclaimed, die-hard Metalhead (since the age of 12), his handling of the subject matter is more academic than fan.

    Zod
     
  4. longshot9

    longshot9 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2002
    Messages:
    1,111
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Pittsburg, CA
    I couldn't highly agree more with Zod, I received this late last week and watched it over the weekend. It was very impressive and fun to watch. Although I never really felt that I got the answer to the question he was asking himself, it was a very well made documentary with lots of good interviews and music. Recommeded highly... the interview with two of the dorks in Mayhem almost sells it by itself. High intelligence runs thick in that band... lol. My only complaint about it is his choice of a few people to interview, there's one guy that looks like he just got off work at the Gap in San Francisco who is just not very believable as a fan of metal.
     
  5. General Zod

    General Zod Ruler of Australia

    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Messages:
    14,210
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Agreed. They were complete morons and totally embarrassed themselves.

    That didn't really bother me. I think he wanted to get a variety of perspectives, from different fans across the fan spectrum. I think by talking to that young girl, the Gap kid, and the 30something professional (who is still a die-hard Metal fan), he accomplished that. Granted, he could have spent more time talking to fans. However, he could have spent more time on a number of different subjects. I'm guessing he did this, and some of it ended up on the curtting room floor.

    Zod
     
  6. rockyracoon

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2005
    Messages:
    2,020
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Batavia, IL

    Hmm...I am a fan of metal, and I also happen to own a closet full of cloths from Banana Republic, Express, nice cloths, dress cloths, etc. Of course I've also got dozens of black concert shirts from all my favorite metal bands. So perhaps this guy realizes that metal fans have jobs that require proper attire or simply that wearing black t-shirts everyday isnt everyone's cup of tea. Plus, if a major theme of the documentary is to examine the stereotyping involved with metal, then he clearly understands to importance of talking to a wide variety of metal fans, regardless of dress.

    Thanks for the review Zod, I look forward to checking this one out.
     
  7. General Zod

    General Zod Ruler of Australia

    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Messages:
    14,210
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    New Jersey
    I also own a closet full of very nice clothing. However, I think longshot9 wasn't so much referring to the manner in which he was dressed, as much as the fan's overall presence.

    My pleasure.

    Zod
     
  8. Cheiron

    Cheiron Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2006
    Messages:
    5,647
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Same. I don't look 'metal' at all. Similar clothes... short hair. Which is fine by me. My music doesn't have to determine my appearance. =)
     
  9. kittybeast

    kittybeast Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2004
    Messages:
    4,603
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Always Somewhere!
    waiting for the nexflix. :headbang:
     
  10. edgeofthorns

    edgeofthorns 24 Hours Ago...

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2005
    Messages:
    6,603
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    City beneath the surface
    Me either, but I never really have. I work in an office and sit in front of a computer all day, so that's not "too metal." :) I've enjoyed hard rock/metal since I was in middle school back in the late 80s. I've always given David Coverdale and John Sykes credit for turning me into a metal head, because Whitesnake's 1987 album blew me completely away! Mr. Sykes made me realize that I needed to throw away the 80s rap stuff that my peers were into and listen to the good stuff!

    Since then, I went the grunge/alternative route during the 90's while in college, but I was bored to tears with it very early on. I landed an internship at a local plant, so I met FatesFan there. I heard him cranking Dream Theater's Pull Me Under one day out of his office, and I was like, what the hell is that! Apparently, he wasn't working! :p I have to give credit to him though, my Jedi metal master, for turning me on to the best kind of metal, progressive and power baby! :headbang:

    I had to move into this genre slowly though, because some of the bands kicked my butt too much at first! :zombie: Once I caught on, I began developing my own taste within this genre of music, which is cool for people to be able to do.

    With that said, it's cool to hear how other people got into metal.
     
  11. longshot9

    longshot9 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2002
    Messages:
    1,111
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Pittsburg, CA
    Exactly, I was in no way trying to insult anyone based on their attire, hell I wear slacks and button down shirts every day to work. I was just stating my opinion that if it was me making the film I would have focused more on believable metal fans. Now the 35yr old guy was a believable metal fan. This guy i'm referring to looks like he's scared to show he's at all a fan of the genre.
     
  12. General Zod

    General Zod Ruler of Australia

    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Messages:
    14,210
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Agreed. He's the fan I suspect most of us would most closely identify with.

    Zod
     
  13. SavaRon

    SavaRon Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2004
    Messages:
    1,104
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Florida
    Do you guys mean the ex-marine dude? He posts over on the Old School board sometimes. Very cool dude! He told us about this movie a while ago and I agree it's a pretty good representation of the genre as a whole. I think more fans should have been interviewed as well though.
     
  14. DarkOne

    DarkOne Black Belt in Sarcasm

    Joined:
    May 2, 2002
    Messages:
    1,071
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Philadelphia
    Thanks for the review. I've been hearing a lot about this one . . may have to pick it up soon.

    Steve in Philly
     
  15. eppst1

    eppst1 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2002
    Messages:
    2,131
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Ohio
    Just put it in my netflix queue - thanks for the heads up Zod.
     
  16. EvilGrit

    EvilGrit All Things Metal.

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2005
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
  17. 5150

    5150 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    346
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Texas
  18. Heavenly Call

    Heavenly Call Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,411
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    I posted this back on April 16th, but it fits in this thread as well:

    I saw the movie Thursday night. It is AWESOME. Well put together, not "preachy" or "insulting" in any way. Interviews have real substance to them rather than "hey, look who I'm interviewing." The section on Norwegian Black metal was very informative to me because I was unfamiliar with some of the bands and the story behind it.

    The basic point of the movie is that metal is as varied and different as it's fans, BUT it is still a unifying power. People who don't understand it probably never will and that's just fine. (paraphrasing the director)

    Great footage from Wacken, interviews with Mayhem, Rob Zombie, Bruce Dickinson, Slipknot, Geddy Lee, Slayer, Iommi, Lemmy, Girlschool, and a host of others. The best part about the theater experience was when the entire crowd booed when Tom Morello and Fieldy from Korn came on screen. Classic.

    It comes out on DVD May 23rd and I highly recommend it!
     
  19. sloppyj03

    sloppyj03 New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2005
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, indeed this film was down.
     
  20. zekeyou

    zekeyou Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2004
    Messages:
    1,463
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    The Triiiaaannnnggggle
    I belive the "Gap Guy" that's being referred to is Chuck Klosterman, who writes some 'metal' stuff for Spin and is the author of "Fargo Rock City".

    Nice start for Sam Dunn-- looking forward to his Voi Vod/Piggy documentary. The teaser trailer of the initial material for that looks awesome.

    I also believe he wants to complete more movies on metal where he can delve a bit more in-- as this 90 minutes seemed just like a great start. The bonus disc is also great-- lots of interviews and the good little Norwegian black metal documentary.
     

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Our music community has been around for almost 15 years and we pride ourselves on offering great metal music discussion, as well as music production and other closely related topics. We work hard every day to make sure our community is one of the best. Enjoy!
  • Like us on Facebook

  • Donate ♥

    We have worked hard for 15 years (and running) to make sure our Metal community is running fast, uses the best software, and isn't overloaded with advertising. If you love the forum as much as we love bringing it to you, please show your support with a generous donation. We really appreciate it!