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NEW ALBUM Q42 017/Q1 2018

Discussion in 'Children Of Bodom' started by RICJAMES, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. rj rl

    rj rl multidimensionally dyslexic

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    Great, more wankers who can't read.

    You can not argue anything art-related objectively, is that bit fucking clear? Apparently me explicitly pointing that out three times ain't enough for some folks. Smartasses like you still show up and go "that's just like your opinion man". Well no shit Sherlock. That's why I refered to one of a few things you can actually measure. I never claimed more riffs equals better song. I claimed that the less riffs there are, the shorter the song must be. It's no rocket science, unless you're super thick, which you are.
     
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    100% false, completely depends on the style of the band. It could be a repeated groove. Many bands in the black metal genre is a fine example of usually very few riffs but many songs are very long. Is the chance that the more different riffs a song has, the song is usually longer? Some times maybe, but X amount of riffs doesn't in any way decide whether the song is short or long.
     
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    rj rl multidimensionally dyslexic

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    100% fucking true. Black metal has few riffs because the musicians can't compose to save their lives, if we're talking old-school BM. Black metal wasn't about the music, it's about the message. Notice how diverse black metal became once it became an art form instead of a platform for extremists. Sigh, Emperor (Ihsahn), Rotting Christ all drifted away from what most people associate with BM exactly because it's archaic and primitive. If BM was artistically valid it wouldn't have vanished. But alas, repetitive tremolo picking of entire fucking chords got old real quick.

    Any musical piece benefits from diversity UNLESS it specifically aims to create an atmosphere using repetitive themes. But you'd be hard pressed to name many genres that do that, especially within metal. Ambient does that, funeral doom does that but who's talking about those? COB is supposed to be a modern take on melodic death metal. Which it fails to be consistently for many years now.
     
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    Inceptionist It's Not My Funeral

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    I mean I agree with him. It’s not just having less riffs, it’s having less diversity. You can hear it by listening to the drums, literally 90% of the song is the same exact pattern on repeat. The guitars are basically straight 16th notes the entire song through, of basically the same riff, up to the chorus. Where’s the interesting parts? Where are the hooks? What grabs you or impresses you? What’s creative about the song at all honestly?

    Grass and clover had the same problem. Intro, main riff, intro repeated, main riff, chorus (which was the intro again), solo section, chorus (which was the intro again).
    The point he’s making is a serious lack of creativity.

    Bodom Beach Terror is diverse as hell. Intro, main riff, bridge, pre chorus, chorus, intro, main riff, pre solo, solo, chorus, pre outro, outro. Nearly all of those being completely different riffs/melodies that sounded completely original. The fact so many different ideas are thrown into one song shows he had a ton of creativity to use. That’s not the case with these new songs, and it shows in the lack of differing riffs.

    For both new songs so far it sounds like he had one good idea and was like “well, gotta stretch this into 5 minutes somehow”.
     
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    Yeah, "uninspired" is the word for this. Starting at 2:03 things improve slightly. Still, not much stands out here. The video is actually better than most lyric videos.
     
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    Firen nothing wild

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    While my initial impression was not great after a 4 or 5 listens it started to grow on me. Overall I like this track but I agree with the general sentiment. It's not necessarily one of their weaker songs, feels like it would fit in Halo Of Blood. One thing that bothered me was that something about this mix sounded muddy, is that just me? Really like the solo at the end though. Other than that it was solid.
     
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    The video? lol, I'd say its probably the cheapest, cringiest AE stock footage lyric video edit that Nuclear blast has put out in a while. Nothings tops WT's Ice Queen, but that's another topic.
     
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    (__Joonas__) † Followed the Reaper †

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    Trust me, you can create hypnotic songs that demand replay, using minimal riffs / sections. It comes down to creating a deep feeling. Take Burzum's Dunkelheit for one example. For me songs like This Road are more about the guitarist's technical display than actual art. Then again I dislike most thrash.
     
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    Not a bad song but doesn't have any stand out moments imo- I actually really like Under Glass and Clover same as Morrigan but usually the first 1 released is the catchier song on the album recently (melodic guitar wise)
     
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    jurgens Children Of Decadence

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    While not necessarily a "bad" song, "This Road" doesn't feel like CoB song. For me it's lacking energy, that punch of epicness which makes me want to replay those songs. Both singles imo have been average, my expectations are not high, but let's hope rest of the album packs that punch for kick ass album.
     
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    Well, at least Knuckleduster kicks ass. I like the new singles, but as COB-songs they're really mediocre.
     
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    (__Joonas__) † Followed the Reaper †

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    The new Knuckleduster duration is 5:41, so it's over two minutes longer than the original.

    There is no 1 minute song on the album, despite what the band said.

    Unless there's a hidden intro for Knuckleduster, explaining both mysteries.
     
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    Under Grass and Clover 2/10

    This Road 7/10
     
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    Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. The mix is awful.

    Another thing. This is the album's first song. Usually first songs tend to be much better than this.
     
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    " Frontman, guitarist, and mastermind Alexi Laiho comments: "'This Road' was actually the last song I wrote but it ended up being the opening track and also one of the singles which makes me happy cos it's one of my faves. It's different from anything we've done since Follow The Reaper" but it's still new. Check it out and you'll know what i mean." "

    http://metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=35191
     
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    Funny how hard it seems to analyze your own music. It sounds like something from HOB with the guitar tone of IWC, nothing to do with FTR.
     
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    rj rl multidimensionally dyslexic

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    I dunno what you mean Alexi. Or was that the standard bit where an artist says "I think it's our strongest album to date. Very fast, agressive, back to the roots, blah blah blah". It's a meme at this point.
     
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    "This Road" My review :

    After Several listen of this new single "This Road" i have to say it's really a masterpiece. Very progressive song with some catchy parts and stands easily to Bodom standards. This song is a mixture of HCDR attitude and Sinergy old gold days in general.
    The song's structure is very progressive starting with a fast riff intro blown in your face which is good.
    Second Riff 0:25 reminds sinergy "the fourth world" verses
    Pre chorus 1:19 reminds "Alexi Laiho - Sioux city Sarsaparilla" and "Paul gilbert - technical difficulties"
    Chorus 1:41 : this as a very HC ish part with a very beautifull lead guitar runs (reminds Sinergy)
    Interlude 2:03 : this reminds instantally Trashy parts of Hatebreeder album (Black Widow & Wrath within). This interlude takes the song is another time signature
    keyboard solo : no comment about Janne's warman. its sick as usuall. the final notes that brings the song to original tempo is just fabuleous
    Guitar Solo : this is one of the best alexi laiho solo in years. reminds also Sinergy - I spit on your grave.

    Global note for this song : 8/10
     
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    rj rl multidimensionally dyslexic

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    Yeah, I also remembered Sioux City Sarsaparilla. There's no time signature change at 2:03, sadly, not even a tempo change. And I honestly don't hear anything progressive in this song. What do you mean by the term?
     

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