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New Alice in Chains production

Discussion in 'Andy Sneap' started by Ermz, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. slashvanyoung

    slashvanyoung Dopefish lives!

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    To me, probably nothing will ever come close to the albums and EPs they did with Layne. They captivated me on an emotional level that the new stuff can't reach. Layne's aura, his audible fragility and honesty was just so special. Jerry's always been the musical backbone of this band though and I'm glad they choose William who's an awesome musician/singer and foremost not a carbon copy at all.

    So in the end, I can appreciate... no... love this new album for standing on it's own. And William has tons of charisma himself, being an extremely sophisticated (he studied philosophy) yet ultra down to earth guy. And it's almost frightening how good of a singer he became. When they were doing their first shows in 2006 you could tell he had to struggle at some parts, like that insane chorus of "Man In A Box". But nowadays, he completely jelled in, pulling off even the hardest parts with ease and passion (and sometimes even playing guitar while doing it).

    He's so good now, when I saw them in Berlin in August at a very intimate club show, some people were actually leaving infuriated because they were convinced they're listening to a playback (which obviously isn't true). I am not kidding... :lol:
     
  2. colonel kurtz

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    honestly, from a pure talent perspective, i think duvall is a lot better than layne

    not only can he do everything that layne staley could...but it seems he can do plenty of stuff that he couldn't

    "that's why you neeeeeeeeeeeever teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell me"...
     
  3. slashvanyoung

    slashvanyoung Dopefish lives!

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    On a technical level, I kinda agree. He is definitely less "hit or miss" than Layne was. But beyond that... William is just such a different guy and I appreciate him giving things his own spin.
     
  4. Kazrog

    Kazrog CEO/CTO, Kazrog, Inc.

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    With William, they found somebody of equal talent to Layne, but less tortured. And they're not pitching him as the "replacement," there's definitely more of a band vibe now with no clear frontman. Layne's spot in the band will always be missing. I don't think Alice In Chains could have possibly done a more graceful comeback, there's no such thing, and I'm excited to hear what they do next.
     
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    I loved Layne but WIllian is so good too. I think he was a perfect choice. He knows his place in the song with Jerry singing too, he plays guitar and he has that swagger and charisma.
     
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    I bought this album the other day and have listened a few times now. The clipping on it kills me but aside from that it sounds great.
     
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    The production and mix of this cd makes me drool.
    The low end on this CD is something from another world.
    I really like the way the guitars are voiced.

    I'm getting tired of listening to thin guitar sounds :erk:
     
  8. Ermz

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    Some dude on GS was saying Randy has certain 'tricks' to tackle the low-end, but didn't want to share without his permission. Twas rather helpful.
     
  9. Harry Hughes

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    Only just finally started giving this a serious, close listen.
    And holy fuck, the production is out of this world.
    Musically strong too.

    Anyone know what pedals Jerry was using in front of his amps for this? I see mentions of amps and preamps in this thread, nothing about boost pedals
     
  10. slashvanyoung

    slashvanyoung Dopefish lives!

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    Well, he's never been a notorious boost pedal user AFAIK. I've seen a TS-808HW on his current floorboard first hand but I'm fairly sure he only engages it to boost certain sections.

    He experimented with the Rat on his first solo record, as well as a Big Muff on one song, but other than that I've never heard of him using boosts on records. FWIW
     
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    ok, so much praise from you guys, i'll definitely go and grab it asap!
    and i don't even like grunge
     
  12. slashvanyoung

    slashvanyoung Dopefish lives!

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    AIC are AIC, they transcend every genre. They're way less a "typical" grunge band than - let's say - Pearl Jam. They're also the single most "metal" grunge band.
     
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    Opened spotify and turned this on. HOLY FUCK ITS HUGE.
     
  14. drew_drummer

    drew_drummer Dancefap

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    AIC are one of those bands that just stick with you, no matter how much your tastes change. I really like the new singer too.
     
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    Cheers for this info dude:)

    Been listening to them for about 5 years now. Totally agree with this
     
  16. MetalJonesy

    MetalJonesy more metal, more booze!!!

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    amen bro! ive been into them for about 6/7 years and its most probably my most listened to stuff!
     
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    is this really the Sneap forum or am i in hell? i know I've been away from here a bit but holy shit, a positive Nickelback reference? and people complaining about too much limiting!!???

    WTF IS GOING ON HERE!!!!


    ARRRRGgghhhhhhhhh :ill:

    seriously:OMG:

    This record kick the asses of any and all records in the last decade [the end]
     
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    My ONLY gripe about the production of this album is that the drums sound way too robotic. Sometimes I wonder if they were even actually performed.
     
  19. Where She Wept

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    :lol: it's called a GOOD drummer!
     
  20. MetalJonesy

    MetalJonesy more metal, more booze!!!

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    deffo +1 on that, although it probably has been quantised in small amounts, Sean is a solid drummer, one of the most solid out there, love his style!
     

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