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New group mixing technique for cubase users.

Discussion in 'Production' started by joeymusicguy, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. Zombietakeover

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    also once you set your desired input gain before compression, once it set and you add your compression and whatver....When you need to go back to adjust the volume/level do you reach for the input gain to adjust or the track fader?
     
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    Looks like I'm safe, because this is how I do it! haha
     
  3. shaggysi0

    shaggysi0 Darkened Dreams Studios

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    Okay, so I understand the concept of this. Awesome tip :)

    My question is:- can this be mimicked in REAPER, and if so, how?
     
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    Folkrav Jean-Sébastien Beaulieu

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    Put Reaper tracks into folders (look on YouTube or Reaper's manual), they act like both Cubase's Folder AND Group tracks (both organises tracks AND routes audio through the folder before hitting master bus).
     
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    shaggysi0 Darkened Dreams Studios

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    I know how to create the folders, I was thinking more with the gain control side of things. I don't think REAPER has an obvious input gain knob so I was wondering if there was another way to adjust input gain whilst having the folder's fader set to -9?
     
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    JeffTD Senhor Testiculo

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    Exactly, just volume and panning adjustments. I usually adjust my overall monitor volume upward to compensate for things being quieter and then tweak, sometimes lowering, sometimes raising - really depends on the source material.

    When I adjust volumes after that stage it's ALWAYS with the fader, adjusting the input gain would fuck up compression settings.
     
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    OneDaySky Clint

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    Thx Jeff
     
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    luxeomni New Metal Member

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    Is the solution in reaper would be to make a second "group" of the previous group ? I mean let say i m grouping all my drums into "Drum group" do the 0db mixing then route my "drum group" to a "Drum group -9db" track where i set the fader at -9db then this new group is routed to the master one.

    is it making any sense ?
     
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    Highlight all your drum tracks.

    Drag them into a single track, so that single track becomes the submix folder.

    Name it "Drums" (or "Shells" if you process them differently to cymbals, which is what I do. In this case you would create a separate "Cymbals" folder).

    Set said "Drums" track to -9db.

    Mix individual drum tracks, do not touch fader on "Drums" track.

    Repeat with other instrument groups.
     
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    luxeomni New Metal Member

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    i' m pretty sure that the first part of what Joey is explaining, but how about the second part where he resest the fader to 0 and then applying a -9db gain reduction from the insert gain knob of cubase.

    Edit : Actually using the jesusonic volume plugin set to -9db first of the signal chain fx on the group after reseting to 0db will do the trick.
     
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    OneDaySky Clint

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    Read this!

     
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    luxeomni New Metal Member

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    Yeah, i was trying to recreate this in Reaper ;)
     
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    CarryYourself Producer ready to learn!

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    I know that this is a year late but I happened upon this forum and post a couple days ago and had to say thank you! This technique has just helped me emminsely! Ive always had problems with volume levels and this helped me go in the right direction so anyone using cubase,, do this!
     
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    So basically i edit drums, allign guitars, cut vocals etc and pull all faders down to -9db. After that i set the volume of tracks on gain knob right up until compressors come into play and then i switch to faders ? Am i figuring this out? thats pretty important to me because i havent really been using gain knob up until now. Also what instrument or drum element should be my volume reference point for mixing ? Should i for example; turn down kick (lets say steven slate kick) to -9db, mix it(eq,compression, what not) and then adjust volume of all other tracks with gain knob referenced by the kick volume ? Pls guys respond !!!!
     
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    Any big compressing you do it is less likely to clip/levels optimal when going up.
     

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