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Discussion in 'Theocracy' started by PasChris, Jul 11, 2016.

  1. PasChris

    PasChris New Metal Member

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    Hi everyone! New to the forum. Thought I would ask a new twist to an old question.

    One thing that i appreciate about Theocracy's music is the strong lyrical content. Anyone know of any other metal bands (no screamers, sorry, I'm old school) with biblically grounded, sound doctrine based lyrics?

    I'm just not satisfied with "christian-themed", "faith based", "inspirational" or any other of those watered down terms.

    So far, I've found all 3 albums from theocracy and "O Ransomed Son" from Ascend the Hill. But the later is more rock than metal.

    Thanks for the help!

    Also, I've been really impressed by all of Theocracy's music. Anyone know what church Matt and the others are a part of?
     
  2. Aish!

    Aish! -Аиш!

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    Welcome!

    These are good questions, to which I'd love the answers too.
     
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    I'll take a shot at this one. The last time I saw Matt discuss this was in a 2011 interview (which is at http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/threads/matt-smith-skype-interview-on-the-slice.741174/). Here's the relevant portion:

    "Q: How would you identify yourself as a Christian?

    A: I grew up Baptist. The church I'm going to now is sort of non-denominational. I wouldn't say I identify myself in any particular way as far as different sects and denominations. As long as the important core beliefs are the same. People are always going to have minor things they disagree on. We've got...our guitar player Jon is Catholic, so we come from all different sorts of backgrounds, but all have the same core beliefs."

    Shawn gave his thoughts in posts #14 & 19 of this thread: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...ian-denomination-tradition-philosophy.735788/
     
  4. Internally Deformed

    Internally Deformed Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm

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    Pretty sure this guy is trolling, but I might be wrong.
     
  5. Aish!

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    I'd already read these church comments & some other vaguely amusing ones. So how about the search for non-screamo great power metal bands with strong biblical lyrics? I've been settling for melodic secular & screamo Christian bands since I've yet to find any other group half as good as Theocracy.
     
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    Internally Deformed Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm

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    Why do the religious leanings of the lyrics even enter into it? If a band is good they're good whether they're espousing Satanism or Christianity or Paganism or whatever. It seems strange to me that religious people would feel the need to listen only to music that confirms them in their beliefs.
     
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    CiG "God is a Lawnmower"

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    They're not saying that's all they listen to.

    To the question, I highly recommend Leviticus, a favourite band of mine personally.
     
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    Internally Deformed Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm

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    I knew some Theocracy fans at university, and they wouldn't listen to any music with even vaguely Satanic themes (so cut themselves off from some of the best music out there). I don't know that that's definitely the case here, but seeking out music specifically for "biblically grounded, sound doctrine based lyrics" makes me think it might be.
     
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    CiG "God is a Lawnmower"

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    That's on you, people often like things with specific themes. Who cares, get off their case.
     
  10. Aish!

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    Thanks for the suggestion & the support, CASSETTEISGOD.

    I love Bjorn Stigsson's "Together With Friends" album featuring the guys from Leviticus, but after all these decades, I don't think I've ever actually listened to Leviticus. Maybe it's time.
     
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    Internally Deformed Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm

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    Tbh I'm just curious to hear their reasons for why they want music with a specific kind of lyrical content. I'm not "on their case".
     
  12. CiG

    CiG "God is a Lawnmower"

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    Sure thing.
     
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    The heart wants what the heart wants.
     
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    I do not listen to satanic or blasphemous songs. Why? I don't want to listen to songs that mock my saviour just as I would refuse to listen to songs that mock my other loved ones like my wife, my son, my parents...
    Songs easily get stuck in my head throughout the day (including the lyrics) and I don't want to repeat lyrics I wholeheartely disagree with again and again.

    Futher I do believe human brains have a tendency to follow the rule "Put garbage in, get garbage out".
     
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    CiG "God is a Lawnmower"

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    This whole album isn't in this vein lyrically, but it's a great record nonetheless and this song is perhaps the centerpiece.

     
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    Internally Deformed Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm

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    Thought so. My thinking is that any God who actually exists probably has a pretty good sense of humour, and whether or not you choose to listen to satanic or blasphemous music is probably pretty low on his list of priorities.

    You've probably already heard them, but Trouble are a good old school Christian band:

     
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    CiG "God is a Lawnmower"

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    Great band.
     
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    Internally Deformed Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm

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    One of the things that's interesting about the whole Christian/Satanic music thing is how similar the lyrics and imagery end up being. This from Trouble:

    I am the tempter
    Ruler of hell
    Bringer of evil
    Beware

    Watch for temptation for it is there
    Takes his time but loves to dare
    All the people they are losing their minds
    He don't care, takes all kinds
    Says love won't you take a bite
    God appears says "this ain't right"
    We are damned for what evil has done
    You know now the Tempter has won

    I guess it works from either side; as long as you're singing about evil and the devil, it doesn't really matter whether you take them seriously or not.
     
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    CiG "God is a Lawnmower"

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    It's a cautionary tale, it's quite funny that this exact kind of thing is what got Black Sabbath so demonised in the 70's.
     
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    Fraser Edwards, guitarist from Ascension & Sharky Sharky, has announced an upcoming solo album titled "I Am God".

    Blasphemy, or cautionary tale?

    Time will tell.
     
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