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Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Der Morgenstern, Jun 1, 2011.
source? 'cause I've never seen or heard about this.
Prog rock is what he should be writing, as that is something I actually think he still can do in a good way. To continue with the heavier stuff is pointless, if confused crap like Watershed is going to be the result.
I don't see Akerfeldt talking shit to death metalheads anywhere. He basically says he's making a prog record with no death vocals, and if the death metal fans dont like it then too bad. If the death metal fans can listen to Damnation then this album shouldn't bug them either.
Damnation was supposed to be a one off experiment which wouldn't be repeated, so to suddenly announce, on the eve of a new album, that he's sick of death metal and isn't doing it any more is a bit of a kick in the nuts for fans of the band.
Honestly though, I thought the songwriting on Damnation was poor anyway. I don't understand why so many people seem to think Mikael is some prog genius - his prog stuff is boring, especially if you compare it to a band like Jethro Tull who were fucking masters of it.
Mikael's best abilities are his death metal vocals and his death metal riff writing.
He can keep his boring prog - I'll listen to A Passion Play or Thick As A Brick.
He can't throw away death metal, it's stuck on him like superglue. Just about all the Opeth albums have growls...there's no escaping unless he throws away all of his songs. Opeth do there own thing they are only influenced by old music, they are surely no 70's prog band. I don't worship Opeth or think they are musical gods, I just like what they do and I do expect them to throw in suprises here and there. Death metal heads may not like it but you realise the best way to get away from something you don't like just ignore it because bitching at Opeth directly will probably just fuel Akerfeldt to hate death metal heads even more...if he even hates them at all..he could just be on one of his periods..lol
Who cares? It's Opeth, they stopped being relevant for awhile now. The album cover is amazing because it's so bad.
At least they didn't spend 10 years on a half assed industrial death metal album that blows.
Morbid Angel have created a masterpiece of garbage, whatchu talkin' about fool?
do you mean the teen metalhead market, or is he patronizing all metalheads? (if the latter, which are the good artists on Roadrunner? (obviously Doug Stanhope doesn't count))
Opeth Irrelevant? Hahaha You just proved that they aren't.
Can't see myself buying this. Watershed wasn't great and now there's no metal at all on the new album??
I seem to be one of few who thinks Opeth has a better second half rather than first half of their carreer. That said I was never a huge fan but judging from the early reports I think Im really going to dig the new album. More melodic, more old school 70's feel. Should be pretty cool I think.
i've always perceived aakerfeldt as a bit of a cunt, not that i've really got any great evidence to support that
He's certainly coming across as a right pretentious twat in recent years. All the photoshopped Akerfeldt/Jesus pics have gone to his head.
I'm inclined to agree that their death metal style was on the way out anyway. Deliverance was the last excellent album, Ghost Reveries was decent, and Watershed just barely tolerable. I welcome this change. I'd rather have good prog than uninspired death metal. Mikael seems to have his heart in prog, so more power to him.
I would agree, only Mikael's prog writing is shit. Like you noted, Deliverance was the last good album - as the prog rock elements crept in and the death metal crept out they've turned to pish.
I'd rather have good prog death than shit prog rock.
I actually think this is a good thing. Opeth's songwriting had become stale. Still Life was their last great album. Blackwater Park was very good, but not up to the level of the first four albums. Since then its been a bunch of good to average albums. The heavy/soft growl/clean formula had wore out its welcome, the metal riffs had become predictable, and albums that were once full of surprises were now run of the mill. All of this climaxed in Watershed, which was Opeth's first mediocre album.
This might kick some life back into Opeth. Honestly I don't think it can hurt.
I never see Ghost Reveries love, I think that one by far mixed the prog elements the best with death metal, it's groovy as fuck yet impossibly heavy. Also the open d tuning is fantastic