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Opeth in Israel: Show cancelled

Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by Corwin, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. Korlich

    Korlich So Judah fucked it up

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    ^ Wanting to enjoy music has nothing to do with politics or war. I´m sorry your show got cancelled and I hope Opeth comes back for you soon.
     
  2. hexwind

    hexwind Creepiness Och Terrorism

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    I know how you feel dude, it's shitty when everyone blames you for things you didn't do but coz you just have a common part of identity as the asshole who done watever shit !!! Shame on fucking leaders.
    But you fans have nothing to do with that. I hope they will come back for ya soon and then come to play here too :p
     
  3. Godhead59

    Godhead59 Dim Sam

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    People around here throwing blame like a flying saucer should do their homework, and Nadav, you really shouldn't be dragged into this argument. Opeth didn't cancel the show because of the continuously fucked-up situation in Israel, they did that because the costumes and security in Israeli airports is, and always has been, very slow and precise. Should Opeth reschedule the show for when they have more spare time they shouldn't have a problem doing the gig.

    So everybody stop fighting and making yourselves sound like idiots. Let us all just live in peace and look at things in a more enlightened and mature way because some of the things said here are downright embarrassing.

    Good day everyone.
     
  4. Prog_Please

    Prog_Please Member

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    I took a class once at my University about the conflict in Israel (it was a little pro-Israel bias, afterall, the US is pro-Israel bias). I can't claim I payed that much attention, but wasn't there like this treaty that Palestine and Israel made that settled the land dispute? Then didn't Israel continue to expand into the territory Israel gave to Palestine, driving the Palestinians out? Actually, in the first place, wasn't the UN considering giving the Jews their country somewhere in Africa or South America (can't recall which continent), but the Jews thought they were entitled to prime real estate (even if it was already inhabited)?

    Knowing how much I love seeing Opeth, I can only imagine how pissed off the people of Israel are since the show was canceled. Hopefully Opeth will visit there again in the near future, maybe after the summer festival season or something.

    p.s. I was trying to be all fancy with those questions. They're more like facts, but from a fuzzy memory. I think they should just go back to that treaty, and give all the houses they made to the Palestinians as "interest" on their "loan."
     
  5. snake101st

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    Yeah Prog, someone talked about the other country earlier, I think it was Uganda.

    BTW everyone check the Ohio show thread. I left a present there for you.
     
  6. Widows Sulk

    Widows Sulk New Metal Member

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    both countries are terrible places filled with terrible people who believe in terrible religions, the only peace in the middle east will be when they're all dead, which hopefully will be soon
     
  7. kalikatzaros

    kalikatzaros ouargh

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    hahahahahahaha its customs not costumes! Costumes are the shit you where on halloween.
    Anyways...... Widows Sulk, you are either sarcastic or really fucked up.....................
     
  8. Koi

    Koi Member

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    I think he was being sarcastic, either way it's a stupid thing to joke about, and either way he's fucked up.
     
  9. Reelo

    Reelo 5°170

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    You don't know shit about these places, mate.
    The Middle-East is breathtakingly beautiful and its inhabitants, regardless of what they might believe in, are among the nicest and most friendly people I have met.
    Don't confound religious doctrines (as interpreted by some extremists on both sides) with the mentality and cultural heritage of an ethnicity!
     
  10. Mr Samsara

    Mr Samsara Misanthropic Moderator

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    Ok, so.... how bout that Opeth band and their shows and stuff? (mouse hovers over the lock button)
     
  11. Reelo

    Reelo 5°170

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    Wow, feel free to lock one of the rare serious (albeit heated) debates that take place in this forum, and that arose out of Opeth as a subject. :rolleyes:

    I, for one, prefer subjects like this over the gazillion "Umm, yeah, so this song sucks" or "Yo mama" threads...
     
  12. hexwind

    hexwind Creepiness Och Terrorism

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    That would be probably Tunisia coz there is a holy place for Jews, it's an Island called Jerba.
     
  13. nadavnaz

    nadavnaz Rabi Rape 3!

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    The plan offered was offered sometime in the 19th century. It's not valid any more.

    Besides, the reality is that Israel exists and is a country, with 7 million citizens, and it has cities, malls, schools, streets, pavements, restaurents, a government, intel google and microsoft have research facilities in Israel. It's not like we sleep in tents and scare people with our pitchforks. So you can't go around saying "why hasn't anyone thought of just moving them to someplace else?" It's simply not possible. When the Israeli government evicted Israeli settlers in Gaza it was practically impossible, and it's still unbelievable that it went through (I support it completely by the way).

    It's a reality, and it's a lot more complex than people think. I think our job is not to blame one another for shit, but to try and reconcile on personal terms not regarding the government. I know there are some people on the other side who think the same, I wish there was a way to know.

    Can you guys agree with that?
     
  14. Reelo

    Reelo 5°170

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    I do.
     
  15. Annihilat0r

    Annihilat0r TRINITY WATCH IN AMAZING!

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    dude, I totally hear you but I never meant you as Opeth fans are responsible for the slaughter your country is fucking up Gaza with. That's not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is Opeth is a cool band, that's all. o_O
     
  16. nadavnaz

    nadavnaz Rabi Rape 3!

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    K, it's all cool
     
  17. Mr Samsara

    Mr Samsara Misanthropic Moderator

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    Don't lecture me. I know how to do my job.
     
  18. Reelo

    Reelo 5°170

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    I wasn't was I?
    I merely defended this thread for being somewhat more substantial than some other posts I have been seeing in this forum. The fact that it's been some while (since I last saw any of those) though means that you do your job right.
     
  19. Benzine

    Benzine .flaps

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    I heard the gig was cancelled due to fears of Isreali fans forcing non-israeli fans into a small corner of the gig venue and forcing them to watch the gig with a really bad view in cramped conditions and taking away their human rights and breaking internation law countless times


    just what i heard anyway



    You live in Haifa which is where my girfriend's father lived before he was forced out at gunpoint. Having left the country he was left with no homeland, friends and family killed, he could never return and for the rest of his life was in deep mourning for the loss of his country, friends, family etc. Why are you more justified to live there than he was? :/ You may now feel like you 'have a home' but in doing so there are a large number of people in the position where you were, with a feeling of homelessness.
     
  20. BefriendedUnit

    BefriendedUnit They wear white for me

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    Holy shit nadavnaz, fantastic defense.

    I'm going to Israel this summer on this trip the UJF is putting on. Maybe I should give a couple of you guys my cell # in case there's a possibility of meeting up, but then the schedule is incredibly packed.
     

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