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Opeth's music has fallen victim to the Loudness War

Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by Seance, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. Sheckles14

    Sheckles14 Member

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    I understand now, thanks.
     
  2. el_serpiente

    el_serpiente Member

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    It is very sad the Opeth also makes production like this, but Opeth is not as bad as other bands.
    This is why I always try to get a LP version.

    To thoese that don't know what this is about look here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
     
  3. leprecon

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    Now that I think about that, there is buch of CD:s that I just can't listen to for a long time. It has nothing to with music being shitty but it just being recorded too damn loud. In most cases I've heard that the old CD:s have been mentioned to sound bad because of the master been made to vinyl or something... So there´s not proper master for Compact Discs. Is it true?

    I quote this from my 1986 Chicago disc: "The music on this compact digital disc was originally recorded on analog equipment. We have attempted to preserve, as closely as possible, the sound of the original recording because of its high resolutuion, however, the compact disc can reveal limitations of the source tape."
     
  4. Seance

    Seance Still Writes in Crayon

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    Alright, well I suppose I don't mean to be throwing questions at you specifically, just ranting a little maybe. I appreciate your responses.

    I'll look, thanks.

    As far as I can tell and understand, yes Opeth is definitely far from the worst, but they're still offenders. You can say it's Sneap's style on Deliverance, or point out the soft sections of Opeth songs on GR, but the characteristics are still present.

    When you say you feel the modern metal sound includes some compression and limiting, I have a hard time thinking this sound didn't solely derive from the effects of the loudness crusade, and I have a hard time acknowledging it as a metal sound at all, since obviously every kind of modern music (save for classical, I assume) is being effected by the same compression/limiting.
     
  5. Kenneth R.

    Kenneth R. Cináed

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    seance = wrong
    moonlapse = write.

    thread/end
     
  6. Seance

    Seance Still Writes in Crayon

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    :err:

    that isn't even relevant. I want discussion, not to "win", but it doesn't seem like this thread will go any further, at least here. thanks to those who responded.

    except you Kenneth. I HATE YOU
     
  7. Kenneth R.

    Kenneth R. Cináed

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    thanks for making my joke bold so that even idiots can laugh at it. :D
     
  8. roadtonowhere08

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    If it makes you feel any better, I 100% agree with you. I suppose people would rather damage their hearing with distorted treble and clipped wavforms than hear what is actually occurring in the studio. Metal is NOT pop; it should not sound like shit. Again, Opeth are very MINOR offenders in the grand scheme of things, but they are, nevertheless. Let's face it, it's not like their albums are mastered by Steve Hoffman or Doug Sax or Alan Parsons. That is not taking away from Opeth, but the issue still needs to be addressed. Just because we have hit a wall with 16 bit volume, it does not mean that should be "oh well, at least it does not suck even more." Opeth writes music that is much better than almost anything ever released by MFSL, DCC, or Sony Mastersound; I just wish their music received the same treatment.

    I would love it if Opeth would tone down then overall volume in the digital domain, and we, as consumers, can get off our asses and turn up the volume with our amps.
     
  9. Seance

    Seance Still Writes in Crayon

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    I appreciate that, as well as your first post. You said a lot of what I wanted to say, only about 100x better. :oops:
     
  10. Towedwart

    Towedwart I will have a apple

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    Are the vinyl version of Opeth releases as equally distorted as the CD versions in terms of the breadth of sound being reduced for this loudness war?
     
  11. metalhead416

    metalhead416 New Metal Member

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    I totally understand teh argument here...and agree with Seance on some points and with moonlapse with some too..>!!!!......i personally donot think opeth is severly affected by this....as many have said it .......but yeah this trend def....is a mood killer.....u cannot really enjoy teh whole atmosphere of teh sound with teh frequencies missing and meshed up sound......it jsut isnt right.....!!!!!!.....heck the reason I dont haev ipod and dont buy stuff from itunes is coz...im not a fan of teh 128K mp3......it takes away alot of the sound....and with this loudness war some of that is alreayd happening..and by teh tome u d/l ure mp3...teh soudn has goen through 2 grades of meshing .....so its relaly not pleasnt to listen to.....agna Opeth is nota big offender...but this trned is affecting every band ....adn it needs to die off....and only teh music buying public can change that by rioting and burning record execx effiges in teh street..!!!!....PEAC EOUT
     
  12. roadtonowhere08

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    Probably just a cutting from the digital master, so they will probably sound almost the same... but I could be wrong.
     
  13. nadavnaz

    nadavnaz Rabi Rape 3!

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    Could you do me a lil favour plz? Just a little tiny one. NEVER EVER COME BACK TO THIS FORUM IF YOU'RE GONNA TYPE LIKE THAT.

    I mean, you don't really think anyones reading anything that you say when you type like that don't you? It's pure spam with some incripted hidden message behind it. QUIT IT.

    **end of outragous outburst**
     
  14. metalhead416

    metalhead416 New Metal Member

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    wow.....someone has sand in thier vagina.....:rolleyes: alright...hahha....just kiddin....im sorry u had to read my post...but come on...u dont haev to u know...u can always put me on ignore...many have...adn are leading stress free lives.....!!!!!...PEAC EOUT
     
  15. DEMIgOD

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    has anyone ever talked to waz outside of the forum. Does he still type like a paint ridden child?
     
  16. metalhead416

    metalhead416 New Metal Member

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    I still ahev mail correspondence with a few friends....Mail as in regular...write with a pen and paper mail....and they always prasie my hand writing...i guess its a give and take situation...i haev excellent hand wriritng but poor typing skills....o well....u cant always get what u want.......alright....i know someones gonna quote teh next line....so Ill save u the trouble...but if u try someteims...u jsut might find...u get what u need.....o well.....but yeah.....sorry for the bad typing......!!!!...PEAC EOUT
     
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  18. Seance

    Seance Still Writes in Crayon

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    Don't derail my thread waz. Get the fuck out.
     
  19. all_sins_undone

    all_sins_undone New Metal Member

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    lol poor typing skills? try poor grammar, poor structure and poor punctuation.
     
  20. Lothlorien

    Lothlorien Towards the Great Sky

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    waz, your typing just pisses me off. i refuse to read a post from u. sry.:cool:
     

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