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Discussion in 'LORD' started by StephenSLR, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. Rick

    Rick Senior User

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    I thought The Road To Perdition was good in it's own right. I saw it some ago though. Goodfellas tops that list for me.
     
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    MetGreen KFC Maniac!!!

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    All great movies on that list. If you want more Robert De Niro check out Once Upon A Time In America. Quite a lengthy epic which i believe it's up there with the best.
     
  3. Keeper of the Seven Cheese

    Keeper of the Seven Cheese Metallic Progressor

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    Check out Raging Bull as well for some great old school De Niro. Great film!
     
  4. maiL huma

    maiL huma Collingwood forever

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    Oh man....I envy you. You're about to watch one of the greatest films ever made. This is like that moment when someone handed you 'Awaken the Guardian' and said 'here give this a spin' :) Seriously, it's a masterpiece - IMNSHO, the Coen's best film hands down.

    I like One Upon a Time in America, but I do think it's a bit slow. It's real old-school, European film-making, but sometimes, I think it's just not as engaging as it could have been. But yes, De Niro, as almost always, is brilliant.

    I don't rate Road to Perdition. It looks fantastic, but the plot and dire-logue were awful. Too many plot holes, too many stupid, inexplicable plot devices, too many dumb decisions made by supposedly smart characters. It was all too fake for my liking.
     
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    agree great Movie
     
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    hmm.. we just finished watching Miller's Crossing... :rolleyes:

    I reckon it's got nothing on any of the other movies you listed in your earlier post, man. Sorry! :p
     
  7. The Apparition

    The Apparition Porpoise McSalamander

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    A big call comparing it to the experience of listening to Awaken the Guardian(best album ever) and if fell pretty short of that mark!

    It was ok but i'm surprised you rated over amazing movies like Goodfellas.
     
  8. maiL huma

    maiL huma Collingwood forever

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    Well each to their own. Miller's Crossing is a very personal film to me, and without a doubt it's the film on my list that I've watched the most - and I would say I've seen films like Goodfellas and The Godfather at least 20 times each.

    There's a *lot* of subtlety to that movie, and to me it's like a classic album, just getting better and better with age. Sorry you didn't like it dude, but what can I say? To me it's about as pefect as film-making gets - yep, finer than Goodfellas and The Godfather - and I'm going to enthusiastically rave about it given the chance :)
     
  9. The Apparition

    The Apparition Porpoise McSalamander

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    I guess i also prefer Italian mafioso over Irish gangsters. Theres so many rules,traditions and history to the Mafia and their organisation is so structured, almost like the military. I also love the mystique of the mafia like the blood oath in becoming a "made" guy and the fact that people were still denying the Mafia existing well into the 1970's. The Irish gangsters seem like 2nd rate thugs compared to the Italians.

    Maybe i'll have to give Miller Crossing another chance as i think i was expecting something completely different and that may have ruined the movie for me a little bit.

    Thats also why i love Goodfellas. It goes into detail about all the gory truths of the Mafia unlike Godfather, which was more mysterious but i guess that was the point and part of the charm.
     
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    I did think it was something completely different, I turned up to a friends place, he was just about to put it on and when I heard the title I thought it was some romance movie, I must've had it confused with something else that was on around the same time, I was gladly surprised.

    s
     
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    pipsqeek Musical Delinquent

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    Pretty much anything and everything from the United States. I've missed it.
     
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    maiL huma Collingwood forever

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    I think pretty much all of these guys are cheap 2nd rate punks. Doesn’t matter if they’re Sicilian, Irish, Russian or whatever. Basically, they’re all after the same thing – money at the expense of others.

    Goodfellas, is I think, not primarily a "mafia" story. It’s Henry Hill’s story. Sure he hung around them, and his mob contacts got him where he was, but there’s not a lot of mafia business in that film – there’s really only two ‘mafia’ characters as well, Tommy DeVito (Tommy DeSimone IRL), who is not a made guy, and Paulie Cicerio (Paul Vario IRL). Because of Henry and Jimmy’s Irish ancestry they can never be ‘made’. Pretty much everything you see in the film, from knocking off delivery trucks to robbing Lufthansa, was a plan concocted by either Henry or Jimmy - 2nd rate Irish/Sicilian thugs who stood over anyone who got in their way.

    I’m not sure if you’ve read the book Wiseguy; on which the film is based? The booked goes a little more into the separation between the Sicilians and guys like Henry and Jimmy, and the resentment they felt. Particularly when it came to organising their own schemes that the mob was opposed to – Hill’s drug trafficking being a prime example. Remember also that a guy like Tommy De Vito was a loose cannon even to the mafia, hence the ‘problem that we took care of.’ I don’t think there’s a lot of complexities or mystery to a guy like Tommy DeSimone or Nicky Spilotro (Nicky Santoro in 'Casino') – they’re just psychopaths who enjoy hurting people.

    The book of Donnie Brasco is also great for showing just how useless and desperate these guys are to do anything but an honest day’s work. A big part of the book, before Donnie even meets Lefty, is him building his rep in the small clubs and restaurants with the neighbourhood guys. These guys just sit around doing nothing, moaning, whinging and eating. It’s a long way from Michael Corleone’s Lake Tahoe estate in Nevada :)

    Don't get me wrong -I find all apects of organised crime fascinating, including the mafia, and I love reading/watching anything decent on the subject matter. I just read an amzing book called "Boss of Bosses: How Bernado Provenzano Saved the Mafia" by Clare Longrigg - It's an incredible story, this old guy couped up in a barn for years running the biggest criminal organisation in Europe. I won't recommend it too highly though in case you hate it ;) :)
     
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    I watched 'Operation Valkyrie' on SBS last night - German version.

    I'm less inclined to watch the Tom Cruise version as I now know the story.

    Also the yanks tend to give many movies that 'Hollywood' cheese factor.

    I hear they dubbed out the Aussie accents in Mad Max I and changed the words at the end so he says he did it all for 'Freedom'.

    Pearl Harbour - another one I have avoided so far.

    s
     
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    pipsqeek Musical Delinquent

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    Reasons made known by Stephen.

    I'm not sure what it is, but basically I am able to sit down to a US based movie having never seen it before and depict the entire movie 5 minutes before everything happens.

    It's too predictable, boring and the same old crap regurgitated over and over again or stories ripped off from another language or genre. Nothing original comes out of that place, there hasn't been since the 50's, the hay day of Hollywood.

    I can't sit through an entire Hollywood film without counting how many times the fire sprinkler red LED flashes per minute above my head.

    My friends I go to the movies with will hate me after this, but I lie about how I feel about the films they force me to go see.

    It works both ways though, they would hate the foreign films I go see at Dendy, etc.

    I haven't seen E.T. either. :) It looks like an annoying fucking film.
     
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    Yeah, okay, the mainstream Hollywood output is designed to make money. I don't see the logic behind casting a veil over everything that comes from America though, that comes across selective ignorance. The fact that you don't even know what you're judging by stating that you haven't actually seen much from America baffles me. While we're casting generalised statements to represent wholes, i don't like food from Africa, music from Hawaii, art from Jamaica or Sweden in general.
     
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    I agree there, it's like saying all American bands are the same.

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    pipsqeek Musical Delinquent

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    You make a good point. My logic is from what I have experienced from having seen some films. On top of that, I get to see the trailers on TV or on the net. None of it appeals to me what so ever.

    I also really don't like the bands that come from there either.

    I put it down to much of the fact that I lived there a large portion of my life and got to experience first hand what it's like at the source. Personally I don't want any part of that country's influence or culture a part of my life.

    This isn't to say I hate the place. I still have friends there, though all of them are quick to point out they are not "American".

    A bit like my Lebanese friend who gave both his children anglo names so they're not harassed throughout their lives when they go to school, get a job, etc. Some people are just tarnished with the lot thanks to a few bad apples, in my case and I'm not afraid to say it, a few bad apples spoiled my view on a certain country and what it has to offer (or lack there of).

    I also don't watch commercial TV stations in Australia, but I love this country and its people. Still, I don't want you or anyone to judge me (impossible as you've never actually met me) based on the fact that I haven't seen or refuse to see any movies that come from the United States.

    Anyway, as I stated before. There are some movies from the US that are good, but they stopped about 1955. Don't get me going to the TV shows, that's a whole new kettle of fish.

    pips
     
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    My post probably came off a little more melodramatic than intended. Each to their own sort of thing. I'd just hate to think you'd be missing some great content.
     
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    Winmar Pillock of society

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    Try watching Donnie Darko and predicting what happens within 5 minutes. I've seen it twice and I still don't know what the fuck happened in it.
     

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