First off: Thanks for writing the review - you've vocalized what I always imagined some people would feel about motW live. I guess my only quibble would be the statement that you are delivering an "objective review" which would basically translate to an "objective opinion", a contradiction by any reasonable definition...That and the focus on command of the instrument, which I usually find to be besides the point when appreciating a bands' performance. And I too found Avant Garden not to my liking, but that's purely personal preference. They are very good at what they do. But for the most part I agree. Now that I've left the band I feel I can say (sorry guys) that maudlin of the Well has never put on a live show that even comes close to doing the albums justice, or standing on its own as a work of art or performance or whatever you want to call it. This is something I've pretty much always felt, and it's not sour grapes twoards the band now that I've left. Excuses like: "Two of our members were partially incapacitated", "we weren't playing on our own equipment", "We hadn't practiced together in six months", etc. are all fine and well, but they're as lame as any other excuse when it comes to the audiences perspective. Great live bands are those that overcome whatever obstacles are presented - because there are *always* obstacles. Opeth at Milwaukee Metal Fest are a great example. The room sucked, the equipment sucked, the set times and everything else imaginable sucked, but Opeth still sounded great. I have so much respect for that. Tuning time might be motW largest problem. It's always been a problem, and it's always been extremely frustrating to me personally. Yes, we were supposed to have a guitar tech. No, he didn't get a handle on the various tunings, meaning that the guitarists had to tune themselves. Again, this is an excuse, and is therefore sucky. No matter how many shows we've played we've never come anywhere near being a "well-oiled machine". Personally, I think the type of show that motW puts on has never been something I would have enjoyed as an audience member. If people do enjoy, that's great. I love playing that music, and I love the music itself, but from the other side of the monitors I don't think it would be my thing. There are a number of elements that happen in the studio that the band, myself of course included, has been unable to reproduce for whatever reason. Then again, the long set times offered by ProgWest are generally something that I find off-putting. Except for a few bands that I am fanatical about, 45 minutes is my absolute limit, 25-30 being ideal. Anyhow, I just wanted to write in with at least partial agreeance, so as not to have the only band response be to bristle at the slag. Your points are good ones, and things that *need* to be taken into account if motW is to continue playing live. This stuff should be taken as constructive criticism, not offensive slander, as I'm sure you're not the only one who felt this way. Toby, Greg, sorry if I've pissed you off.